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How do we get on the waiting list for the 170? Where do I submit my deposit?
How do we get on the waiting list for the 170? Where do I submit my deposit? Oh, wait... Panasonic will actually have this product avaialble in the fall through its vast network of authorized dealers.
First in the door with some green takes the actual product back to the shop with them.
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In my experience, beta-testers don't usually pay for the privilege to be guinea pigs.
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I'm not a RED basher. Far from it, truly. Jim is doing amazing stuff, and what RED does will help redefine the industry. Perhaps not in the way that first springs to mind, but they will certainly catalyze things in good ways.
That said, I do have a slight problem with someone telling me my $25 - $50k camera is an "alpha" or "beta" product and that I shouldn't plan on using it for paying work. In my experience, beta-testers don't usually pay for the privilege to be guinea pigs.
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ANYTHING in this price class is unbelievable; to get a super-high-res solid 1080P or 2K out of it is stunning, to get a 2/3" chip is beyond awesome. I haven't dug into the reduser reactions yet, but anyone complaining in any way about the Scarlet is completely off base. What they're promising, for $3,000, is just insanely over the top.
Could it have been better? of course. Interchangeable lens would be nice, etc. But it's just like people being "disappointed" that the $5500-ish HPX170 isn't an EX3-killer... you have to factor in the price. People were expecting the Scarlet to be "below $10,000". It's $3,000! Come ON, people.
There I'll disagree 100%. hard disk is the lamest recording system on the planet. I'm much happier with the dual compactflash approach. I bought a red drive, and I'd use CF instead every single time unless I absolutely *had* to have larger capacity. Scarlet's not shipping for at least a year, and I'm sure we'll have 32GB cards by then. Two 32's should provide plenty of recording capacity with absolutely no hassle.
I don't actually think the big players will react much at all....I think it's more likely that the big players will continue down the same R&D and marketing paths they already have....I see little or no change other than their current progression.
When we asked if Canon’s use of AVCHD in the consumer range would be a factor in its development of pro platforms, the responses became very interesting. Zorich confirmed that would be a factor, but did not go as far to say that Canon would definitely be pursuing the AVCHD path. He continued, “Red [Digital Cinema] created their own codec. No one took them seriously two years ago, and now they’re competing in the marketplace.”
I still think the price drop of the HPX500 was a pre-emptive move based on "inside knowledge" of Scarlet, coupled with EX3 leaks, and Canon taking direct notes from RED's playbook, there's no doubt in my mind that RED is already influencing the other's decisions.
Indeed.The Canon comments on the other hand I find interesting.
That's a company that has never before ventured to create their own codec.
Red hasn't yet shown to be able to mass produce and deliver product, as Erik points out.
$3,000 for the Scarlet? Is that before or after they charge you $2,950 for a viewfinder and $1,500 for the batteries + charger?here's what I found on camcorderinfo.com :
Today at NAB, Red Digital Cinema showcased the long-awaited Scarlet, a compact model capable of shooting 3K video for under $3,000.