Periodical Workout Thread ...

well crap. I was under the impression they had to like call me and see if it was ok before they went and made a movie about me...

I may just give the low carb thing a try Tom. In the past when in much better shape, I tried to eat carbs before expending large amounts of energy and I'd swear that they just made me sluggish. Probably the best thing I can do is cut all the processed fake crap and 5 cokes a day. Either way all of that is going eventually kill me.
 
a good rule of thumb is to only buy things on the perimeter of the grocery store and to avoid the middle aisles. All i need from the middle is probably peanut butter, dried fruits, cereal, water, and spices.

of course, every store is different, but in general the large grocery stores seem to keep the produce, meat, dairy, and bakery all on the perimeter of the store. The bakery can get ya, I only get Milton's bread (no sugar, 5g protein per slice!)

keeping to this rule of thumb, you should be able to avoid soda, chips, and other junk.
 
I'll have to start looking at bread. I just love a good turkey sandwich every once in a while. I know the bread I buy now is Sara Lee and is loaded with sugar. Its good though! I'm going to try just eating turkey and a slice of provolone by itself and see if I cant get hooked on that maybe. That and some dried fruit sounds like a pretty healthy meal? The dried fruit I buy is fancy no preservative stuff. Guess I could start drying my own eh? Saw that on the ol food network... Today's exercise is to just walk the dogs and clean the garage. And take pictures during the nephew's easter egg hunting today. Probably get the biggest workout doing that - 18 months and he is FAST.
 
well crap. I was under the impression they had to like call me and see if it was ok before they went and made a movie about me...

I may just give the low carb thing a try Tom. In the past when in much better shape, I tried to eat carbs before expending large amounts of energy and I'd swear that they just made me sluggish. Probably the best thing I can do is cut all the processed fake crap and 5 cokes a day. Either way all of that is going eventually kill me.

If eating carbs like that make you sluggish, then definitely try the low-carb diet. You'd be amazed at how great you feel. A word of warning though - it takes about a week for your metabolism to get used to the new diet so you'll have energy problems for that week. You might feel mildly dizzy at times, so don't operate heavy machinery, blah blah blah. :)

The funny thing is, on a regular mid-carb diet, I can do a set of barbell curls with a certain weight for about 8 reps... when I'm on my high fat, low carb diet, I can use the same weight and crank out about 12 or 13 reps. :) And the only reason I stopped at 12 reps is because I got bored of doing it... well, it was just for a test and not an actual workout though - at that point, you just up the poundage and get bigger and bigger (or more toned).

Oh, and if you're on a low carb diet, caffeine will send your energy through the roof!
 
I don't stress carbs like I used to (The Zone for example or Atkins)

I burn to much energy and found myself needing them. Cutting them out of my diet was not a good idea.

Definately in moderation, but still eat them.
 
It all depends on your metabolic type. If cutting carbs works, then do it. If not, then watch the carb intake and stay low fat. Low carb definitely isn't for everyone.
 
Oh I'll always be eating some carbs. I love pasta too much to quit them all together. Good to know that it can take some time to for it to work. I will say that since I've made these new goals and taken action to do all this I just feel better overall. Just in a better mood.
 
Oh I'll always be eating some carbs. I love pasta too much to quit them all together. Good to know that it can take some time to for it to work. I will say that since I've made these new goals and taken action to do all this I just feel better overall. Just in a better mood.

The easiest way to lose weight, and the first thing that a nutritionist or personal trainer who knows about nutrition will recommend is to cut sodas and extra complex carbs like bread, cookies, and crackers. Cutting those 2 things will go a long way towards making you feel better and get in better shape, diet-wise.

Yes, but you can change your metabolic rate through your "diet" and energy expenditure.

You can, but I was actually referring to how your body reacts to different ratios of protein / carbs / fat. If you were to put an Eskimo who's used to a very low carb diet onto a medium to high carb diet, that person would start to have health issues like high blood pressure and cardiac disease. Metabolic typing takes into consideration your ethnic background and how you react to different types of food and creates a diet based on that.
 
Oh, yeah....93.90 miles.:kali:


I'm gonna go lie down and die now. 6.5hrs pedal time (clock stops at red lights a pee breaks) and about 7hrs real time.

I l-o-v-e carbs, but then again I burn a lot of calories.


-A
 
another goal of mine is to get MAN arms. i feel like my arms are puny, like a boy's, and not in proportion to the rest of my body.
i find myself checking out dude's arms and comparing them to mine. is that weird?
i'm 26 and i guess by now I figured I'd have man arms. maybe i should take some before and after pics, haha.

edit: 93 miles!? you're a beast!
 
Nice adkimery! If you ever see me riding my bike that far, stop and get me because it means that somebody has been chasing me. :) Seriously though, nice work.

Recipe # 2 for man arms:

1. Manual labor :beer:

Thomas J. O'Hara said:
another goal of mine is to get MAN arms. i feel like my arms are puny, like a boy's, and not in proportion to the rest of my body.
i find myself checking out dude's arms and comparing them to mine. is that weird?
i'm 26 and i guess by now I figured I'd have man arms. maybe i should take some before and after pics, haha.

If you train your legs while you are training your arms, the chances are pretty good that your arms will grow faster. Running kicks muscle growth in for me. For many people, things like squats and dead lifts tend to do it. Seriously.

As for carbs. Cutting carbs isn't the best idea IMO. I have stuck to a 40% carbs, 40% protein, and 20% fat ratio for almost ten years now. The human body has to have carbs, there is no way around it. There was a guy at my gym in Colorado who competed in natural body building competitions (yes, they actually call them natural). He would cut carbs (almost completely) a month before competing. I could always tell when it was time for a competition because he would be dragging himself around the gym with pasty gray skin and bags under his eyes. Sure he was ripped like movie ticket, but he also looked like he was about to collapse at any moment.

The craze of cutting carbs while exercising (or at any time for that matter) is a bad idea if you ask me. You just need to eat the right carbs. Stick with carbs that have a medium to low glycemic index and all will be well. Here is a good article from Harvard on the matter.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html

...and this site has a glycemic index database for over 1,600 foods:
http://www.glycemicindex.com/

adkimery, you should check out this page that I stumbled across:
http://www.cptips.com/gi.htm

One thing that makes eating right much easier is shopping at a health food or whole foods store... around here we have Trader Joe's and Clark's Nutrition Centers. True, you can still make some bad choices (sometimes without knowing it) while shopping at these stores, but the odds are better that you won't. Rummaging though a run of the mill grocery chain for healthy choices can become a true challenge. At least by going somewhere that tends to sell the "good" carbs and items that haven't been through more processing than your intel... you have a head start.
 
Cutting carbs for me is what works. From all the research I've done and my own experience with a low carb diet, it's the best diet for me to be on.

When I'm following a standard carbohydrate diet, here's what happens to me:

- I have no energy
- I'm almost always a bit depressed
- I don't feel good
- Bloating and gas
- High blood pressure
- Heart palpitations from time to time

When I'm on a low carb, high fat diet, here's what happens to me:

- An almost unlimited amount of energy
- No mood swings whatsoever
- My general disposition on life is optimistic
- No bloating, never any gas
- Much lower blood pressure
- No cardiac issues like heart palpitations

Again, low carb may not work for everyone, but don't be so quick to dismiss it. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine. Don't follow it. It works for me so I'm going to follow it. I don't think it's a bad idea. As a matter of fact, if your metabolic type tends to follow a higher fat, much lower carbohydrate level, then that's the diet you really need to follow.

As far as the human body needing carbs, the only part that needs carbs to function is the brain, and it's less than 100 grams per day. The rest of the body is perfectly fine deriving energy from the breakdown of MCTs (Medium Chain Triglycerides) in the liver.

As for snodart's bodybuilding friend, he most likely cut carbs without any significant increase in his fat intake. He was most likely living off strictly protein like skinless chicken breasts - either that or his body just isn't that great of a fat burning machine. His metabolism just might favor carbohydrates as an energy source.

It also depends on how insulin sensitive you are and whether or not you have a history of diabetes in your family tree. If you do, then eating more carbs won't be an ideal situation, obviously. The more insulin resistive you become, the harder your pancreas has to work, leading to eventual failure.

I'm not trying to harp the issue, but I really wish people didn't try so hard to push the fact that a carbohydrate based diet is the answer when in many situations, it's simply not the case. I'm not singling anyone out, since quite a few people in this thread seem to suggest that cutting carbs is a very bad thing to do.
 
edit: 93 miles!? you're a beast!
The 93 miles was the beast. I'm just the chew toy that barely escaped w/it's life:laugh:


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adkimery, you should check out this page that I stumbled across:
http://www.cptips.com/gi.htm
Cool, thanks for the link. When I first started training another cyclist recommend a sports drink called Cytomax that's made especially for long distance events and it sounds like Cytomax does what that paper talks about (getting the right carbs during the event makes a bigger difference than what you ate before the event).


-A
 
Tom Marshall said:
I went to Burger King for lunch today... lifting that double Whopper and fries was a great workout... and then there was the large drink too... :laugh:

This could have something to do with some of your issues while not on a low-carb high-fat diet. :laugh:

I see your point though. If it works for you, then nobody can argue with that. The bottom line though is that the body has to have some protein, some carbs, and some fat. Any change in diet can alter that way we feel (better or worse) The question still remains though... is our body functioning at its true potential and how will our diet effect the body in terms of longevity and our quality of life.

To tell you the truth though, I think our thoughts and mindset might play a bigger roll in health and fitness than diet.
 
This could have something to do with some of your issues while not on a low-carb high-fat diet. :laugh:

I see your point though. If it works for you, then nobody can argue with that. The bottom line though is that the body has to have some protein, some carbs, and some fat. Any change in diet can alter that way we feel (better or worse) The question still remains though... is our body functioning at its true potential and how will our diet effect the body in terms of longevity and our quality of life.

To tell you the truth though, I think our thoughts and mindset might play a bigger roll in health and fitness than diet.

lol... it's funny, cause me reading that Burger King post that I wrote (I think last week) is one of the things that got me to get back onto a diet... :)

I was talking with my mom on the phone today and I was telling her about the diet and what types of food I can and can't eat. She said she wanted to try the diet and I told her that it's not a widely accepted diet and you have to be careful with it. I also told her not to mention to the doctor that she was following a low carb diet because he would probably chew her out over it. It doesn't really jive well with modern medicine.

I do agree about the mindset thing. Health is a state of mind, no doubt about it and diet and exercise is an extension of that mindset. You can't really have one without the other.
 
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