Percentage of Mac versus PC Users of HVX200

Percentage of Mac versus PC Users of HVX200

  • I use an HVX200 and a MAC

    Votes: 138 58.7%

  • I use an HVX200 and a PC

    Votes: 60 25.5%

  • I use a DVX100 and a MAC

    Votes: 24 10.2%

  • I use a DVX100 and a PC

    Votes: 13 5.5%
  • Total voters
    235
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Both PC & MAC have their uses/advantages.
i'm happy using both.
(but I admit I'm lots happier after I got my first G5 PowerMac to edit on)
 
You won't find much, if any, PC editing going on in the professional broadcast/film world. Just home users. So it makes sense that people with more professional cameras edit on MAC. I work in Hollywood and I've only seen 2 choices: Avid or FCP. But at home I edit with Vegas on a PC. Why? Cuz I just find it easier to use for my all around uses and I'm not an "editor". In fact our in house editor doesn't even know what Vegas is (no respect). Works for my purposes, though. Also, ya still need a converter like Raylight to go to Vegas, etc. How much more can we spend??? :P
 
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PC's have a more open system and are more fluid, so it kinda makes sense that Panny would support it more...

It's kinda the basic difference between the two computers, really there is no PC, no Mac, they are all just computers, the only succesful closed system computers are Macs, X-Box's, Wii's, Playstations and things like that.

Anything that is not a closed system, is a PC.

So a closed system generally runs much better, but can do much less, an open system has to have the ability to recognize just about anything, and by being able to recognize anything, it's not as well internally integrated. Open systems also have much more competition, and therefore you have more options and are cheaper. A homemade PC is less than 50% the price of a mac, a alienware is about 85%, a Dell is about 60% the price.

Personally I prefer macs for simple tasks, and also because I know every mac I use is a pretty darn good system, on a blind tatse test I'd take a mac everytime. I like PC's for very broad uses -a system that can do a lot but not as smooth- and specific tasks - a customized system to do 1 thing very good.
 
Bionicpix said:
You won't find much, if any, PC editing going on in the professional broadcast/film world. Just home users.
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Er... no... I haven't seen the insides of a tv station or network yet that wasn't running on Avid on the PC. A few FCP systems sprinkled around, sure, but primarily Avid PC.
 
Bionicpix said:
You won't find much, if any, PC editing going on in the professional broadcast/film world. Just home users.
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Weta Digital uses PC's (Linux) and are considered in the company of the fastest computers on the planet

ILM runs multiple platforms of PC and MAC, depending on the department.
 
Bionicpix said:
Vegas is (no respect). Works for my purposes, though. Also, ya still need a converter like Raylight to go to Vegas, etc. How much more can we spend??? :P
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vegas 6 comes with the cineform codec. Not bad for $99.
 
I love Vegas to death. Never seen it used in any broadcast stations or whatever, but that doesn't change just how pleasant a product it is to use! And now with the new Raylight update that puts MXF files directly on the timeline, I think it just got a big boost right when it needed it.
 
Jmtasu said:
It's kinda the basic difference between the two computers, really there is no PC, no Mac, they are all just computers, the only succesful closed system computers are Macs, X-Box's, Wii's, Playstations and things like that.

Anything that is not a closed system, is a PC.
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On a related note...

A while ago, before Microsoft was able to pull together their dev stations for XBox 360 development/authoring they pushed Mac G4s thru to their developers as the best/most stable solution.



dmc
 
Barry_Green said:
Er... no... I haven't seen the insides of a tv station or network yet that wasn't running on Avid on the PC. A few FCP systems sprinkled around, sure, but primarily Avid PC.
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Ok, I guess it's a terminology thing. Avid can run on WINDOWS as a platform, yes. But I was reading this as PC=personal computer. I was meaning, you won't walk into too many professional environments and find them editing on a Dell with Vegas/Premiere/etc. But you WILL find top flight facilities editing on regular old G5's like anybody has at home in their kitchen with out-of-the-box FCP. Again, go price out that Avid system at the TV station running on a "PC". It's tens of thousands of dollars (Adrenalin system runs around $50k). It's not like they buy a disc and install on their Gateway. Yet the MAC solution is pretty close to that. Again, personally, I love Vegas for my own use. Just saying it's not an industry standard for whatever reason.

As far as ILM and WETA goes, sure they run WINDOWS for various FX apps. This thread is about editing choices, no?

My original point was simply this, more HVX users probably use MAC cuz the closer you get to "pro" workflow, the more sense it makes to stay within industry standards. If your getting paid to shoot, you'll want the broadest options for editing/editors = FCP these days, really.

Funny aside: my friend works in the art dept. for PC Magazine...he works on a MAC. :P
 
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PC = "windows compatible computer" in this terminology.

And just about every tv station or studio or production house I've seen has been primarily Avid on the PC, or above (meaning Flame/Smoke/Henry etc); granted they will usually have a Mac around somewhere, maybe a few Mac stations.

You'll not usually ever see a Premiere Pro or Vegas workstation set up in a post facility or at a broadcaster, but Avid all the time, and FCP frequently.
 
Atleast as of Thursday, we are running about 60% Mac for the HVX200.

Since I start this thread, I just want to reiterate that my concern is with Panasonic's minimal support for more than half its users of the HVX200.

I don't think this is really supporting the larger percentage of your user base.

Which it weren't so, and hope that it is remedied.
 
John_Hudson said:
If I may David ?

What does Panasonic have to do with any of the platforms ? I'm a bit lost on this one .
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John:

It supplies a p2 viewer for Windows computers, but not for Macintosh computers

Its p2 card firmware updater is PC only. I am unable to update my cards unless I have access to a PC, which I don't.

Its p2 store software is not UB, even though it's been a year since Apple moved to Intel.

The p2 Store is USB2 rather than FW400 which is slower on both platforms.

Even its web site does not work correctly in Safari.

If you are going to offer ANY software for a computer, offer it for both platforms equally.

At least get your web site to support open standards.

But you knew that Panasonic lacks parity for Mac, didn't ya?

You're just being onery.
 
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Oh oh oh

Of course; I had it all backwards. I was thinking that you were implying that Panasonic needed to pimp PC users more

(Don't mind me)
 
When I built a PC based NLE system a few years back, I found I could depend on the "dreaded blue screen" several times a week, making it hard to complete a project without a lot of frustration. This was true on 2 different systems, and forum posters at the time seemed to have the similar problems, except for a few who had somehow attained that magic perfect configuration. After a few years away from video, this time I resolved to go Mac to avoid that, and so far no blue screens. Has PC evolved beyond that lately?
 
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