EVA1: Panasonic AU-EVA1! Announcement and latest updates

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Straw Man said:
Seems like some folks are conflating their emotional responses (annoyance and impatience) with objective "truths about the industry nowadays." No disrespect intended...but like... they're not. Once they release footage and production specs, no one will remember or care about how the presentation went on June 2, 2017 and how they didn't EVEN release any footage that day. Most folks I imagine will just take a look at the footage, research the specs, and make the decision that makes the most sense for them. Don't see too many people punish-buying C200s to teach panasonic a lesson about making them wait to see haha!

Personally this nerdy, only slight grasp of wow marketing is what I like about panasonic. I don't feel like I'm at the car dealership!

Anywho there's a first look (NO FOOTAGE) here: https://vimeo.com/220076198

Just what he already said but get a good look at how small it really is.
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+10...spot on
 
puredrifting said:
I've been shooting with the Ninja Blade on a C100/300 for years, it's not bad. What bugs me though is having to buy a 7" big heavy Shogun Inferno for 4K. You stick two batteries on the back, pop in an SSD and you have totally upset the balance and accessibility of the camera, 7" sucks for on camera monitoring. If Atomos would make a 4K version of the Ninja Blade with a higher resolution screen, that would rock. I too prefer to NOT use an external recorder but for green screen, it's better than the C100/300 codecs.
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+1 I own both and the blade is the perfect size and great build quality...the Shogun is big...
 
Wow. The H8R floodgates just ripped open immediately. Whatever, I'm not reading any more of that tonight.

I was working, but from what I saw of the presentation, I thought it was fine. It's dudes talking at a podium. It's fine. I got the color commentary from the news websites.

I am impressed with the camera. It ticked so many items on my checklist. Internal 10-bit 422, Super 35, bigger than 4K sensor downsampled to DCI 4K, compact and light weight, raw out is a good one, modular limbs is good, too. I'm not hot on the EF only but it'll work for my needs right now. My PL lenses will work with an EF-PL adapter and I have a collection of EF lenses since I'm a Canon photographer. Not too hot on no EVF, but there are workarounds. The LCD hood will help. Not sure what batteries it uses. Be killer if they are the same as DVX200 as I have a few already. SD cards? The new V90's will certainly do the trick. Big check there. Varicam color science, plus proper V-log and V-gamut? HUGE yeses. I am properly impressed. Under $8000? Make it 6 and the money is yours! And, of course, dual base ISO. Wow. ND and switchable IR...and I love the red accents. New 5.7k sensor that will eventually output raw if i need it. Love it. I'm sure the future concrete specs will be lovely. I'm sure the images will be lovely. I want one.

If you guys tweak anything, make the EF mount a locking one. And maybe make sure there's a way we can power a lens or an evf thru the onboard battery to keep everything compact. Idk. I really like it. I was whispering "yes!" a lot at the venue i was working. And EVA1 is a sexy name. "Eva." Nice.

I can't wait to hold one in my hands and shoot something.

ADDENDUM:

I just saw the Newsshooter sitdown interview with Mitch and Eric Naso. Uh, yeah, learned a lot, got a good glimpse of the camera. Is that an Arri rosette or something else attaching the handgrip? Anyway, I like EVA1 even more.
 
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Holy crap people let's calm down a bit. Unless any of us are desperate to get a new camera ASAP I just don't get what the rush is. Two months ago we didn't know we would have any new cameras options and we were all perfectly happy with what we have.

Now we have Panasonic, Canon and Sony putting out three new options we didn't have before. Talk about innovation and industry choices.

Panasonic typically doesn't make crap. I wasn't happy about the 960x540 pixel shifting on the HVX200 but everybody had odd compromises back then when it came to HD. At the end of the day it was still a solid camera. The Eva will be an amazing camera. How much more amazing than the GH5 is impossible to say right now but a camera like this is never just about the quality of each pixel. It is about the ergonomics and having a robust tool with all the controls at your fingertips. This is really what many hoped the DVX200 would be and then some.

Of course the camera was going to be EF mount. The Varicam uses EF so it would have been rather dumb not to use EF. I get the argument that m43 would have been nice and EF lenses could be used but I think that is such a niche to worry about. A lot of the pros with the cash flow to buy the Eva and upgrade from the GH5 likely already have EF glass with the Speedbooster so I just don't see a realistic market share to go the EF mount route. A nice option for sure but perhaps just not worth the R&D for the 1% of users that would make use of it. If one bothers to move up to a $8k camera they are likely not even thinking of native m43 glass anymore.

to be honest I am not sold on Eva yet but I know she will be a great camera. I don't need to be sold on Eva yet since there is time and we need to see how she performs in the right hands. Let's all just hope 100 amateurs and photographers don't get their hands on the camera flooding the internet with sad samples of mediocrity. Panasonic needs to be selective with who gets to take Eva out on a date. We wouldn't want her to get a bad reputation.
 
Whew, Finally got thru my day at CineGear, grabbed a Fatburger and sat down to read what I knew would be an epic thread.

First off, congrats on blowing well past 1000 posts based on absolutely zero new info since NAB. It is a testament to the speculative nature of internet discourse.There was also some quality humor in there which I'm sure we can all welcome.

So first about the presentation. This was a Preview Event, not a camera release or launch. We said it over and over. Don't really know how to be any more clear. The original info posted on the sign right next to the covered camera at NAB read "Preview at CineGear. Shipping in the Fall." I can understand that you wanted more, but this is what we said we were going to do and we did exactly that. In fact we decided to release more info than originally intended.

Didn't like the style of presentation? Well, sorry. We tried to keep it short and sweet. We had an hour window and we purposefully kept the presentation to 30-40 minutes (I think, didn't check the runtime). There was a nice slick teaser reel we showed in the theater that we could not put on the live stream due to rights holders, so that was a couple minutes there. But we said here's what we have up to now, here's what you told us you wanted, here's what we're doing to answer that. I thought it was important to show what Dual Native ISO actually looks like because many people don't understand or appreciate what it offers. Same with those who may not be familiar with infrared photography. Personally I'm not a fan of over-produced flashy presentations; they feel all sterile sizzle to me. We dress it up a bit but in the end we're trying to deliver some technical information to a wide variety of people, some of whom are not very technical and others who are extremely technical. But maybe you would have preferred I resurrect the Convergent Design Puppet Mitch. Whatevs, I prefer this style.

Some important notes on camera development.

I said that this process began two years ago. That doesn't mean the engineers started designing PCBs right away, it means that we started studying what would be the appropriate device to make. There were many meetings both internally as well as externally, where we talked to many clients who do a great variety of work. There is a VERY long market research aspect to this, after which the designers and engineers begin attacking the problems at hand.

Just because I stated that we were not ready to give out some information doesn't mean we did not know the answer. In many areas we have chosen not to discuss details and instead focus on the information we did provide. And if I say something like "we're not stating the dynamic range of the camera yet" it is not because we have no idea what it will be. In fact for many such measurements we have it working very well already, but we might be able to eek out a bit more performance so we don't want to share just yet. I for one would rather under-promise and over-deliver, but it's not because I don't have a clue as yet. And for some questions we know exactly what the answer is but we choose not to share at this time for various reasons.

Feel free to ask me questions here but please understand two things: 1, I can't or won't answer questions in some areas or at least not yet, and 2, I'm at the show all day tomorrow plus I have a full day of meetings on Sunday followed by a packed week. So I'll do my best to keep up, but it's kinda exhausting and I got way too much California sun today.


Tacos are delicious.
 
I have a question...can you now please share which Sigma lens was under the sheet? Just wondering, ha.

And was it a full-frame lens because you will need a full-frame lens to cover the 5.7K RAW?
 
Thanks The Mitch. I can appreciate the candor and certainly will concur that tacos are delicious.

The EVA1 looks like a winner to me.
 
Why would you need a 135-format lens to cover a Super 35 sensor?

[rant]We need to stop saying full frame. It's Canon marketing speak and doesn't mean anything. Every format can fully fill a frame. Full frame? The Hasselblads are trying not to laugh. It's 135. You could even say 35mm but that might be confused with a lens focal length.[/rant]
 
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