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mcgeedigital said:
S-35 is the film standard.
"Full frame" is for DSLRs like the D810 and 5D Mk IV.
And Red Weapon.
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Yes, but a lot of people use speedboosters to get full frame on S35...
I would love to have a FS5 with FF and in body stabilisation... and if you could do a Center S35 crop, you'd have the best of two worlds, without fiddling with adapters... (and could also get full frame look, with autofocus if one wishes, which is not possible with adapters).
I'm convinced it would sell like hotcakes...

And in Panasonics case, it would give them a unique camera...
 
filmguy123 said:
I think they will price to compete with FS5, but build features to compete with entire Sony FS7/FS5 midrange (lets face it: FS7 in a lighter FS5 body would be many people's dream camera). I think they will attempt to do just that.
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Yup, you just described my dream camera. FS7 codecs, frame rates, and resolution, FS7 II locking lens mount,
(interchangable lens mounts would be even better) but FS5 body size (and of course that nice variable ND).
 
I must be weird, I breathed a heavy sigh of relief when I took delivery of my first Canon C100, then a C300. After shooting full frame on the 5D MKII, then MKIII for a few years, I truly began to hate shooting with FF and eagerly moved to S35 imagers. The FF FOV is totally fine but the shallow DOF made using it for what I shoot a total crap shoot, I would miss sharp focus all of the time. I wonder if a lot of people who think they want FF cameras actually have experience in trying to hit critical sharp focus on a moving subject while operating handheld? DPAF is a help but still, who wants to shoot everything interior low light with 3" of DOF? My work has no need for anamorphic or pseudo anamorphic as most people shoot. FF is great for stills, awful for video IMHO.
 
I don't even need anything shallower than what M43 offers -- assuming you are using the right glass, of course. Ballpark F/1.4 - f/2.0 on good glass that can resolve that sharply is plenty shallow.

S35 is about perfect to get that same DoF at the sweet spot of most lenses.

Regarding FOV on both, I can't help but feel like this is coming from people just adapting FF glass. It's not really a fair comparison... all the sensor sizes FOV are just fine if you are using glass designed for the sensor. Unless you need something extremely wide (I rarely ever even desire the aesthetic of less than 22-24mm FF equivalent) smaller sensors actually have an advantage for better telephoto options.

So yes, I agree. S35 is pretty idyllic sensor size.

And M43 is great - especially once the lowlight and DR moves up a notch with future developments. A GH7 or GH8 if it landed today, with 14.5 stops of DR and clean ISO 12800 and internal 10bit 4:2:2 at 6K 120fps, would have everyone seriously rethinking the whole sensor size argument and realizing that FOV and DOF are largely irrelvant for cinema work... in reality, it's the other specs that are (currently) made possible by larger sensors that people are interested in.
 
It's not either you can only use m43 or s35 - both options will be available. I really enjoyed shooting with the gh4 for personal projects and that outweighed the smaller sensor size (I wouldn't go any smaller though). But by and large, s35 will remain the popular choice for "production" cameras.
 
If this Non-Varicam Mini is made for the gimbals and drones, then -

a) size is important (the smaller the better)

b) the auto-focus is important (the better the better)

To have AF, native glass is required. Ergo, MFT must be in play for this Panasonic camera.

For sticks and/or shoulders, one can have a swappable mount. The performance differences between the current generation of MFT and s35 sensors are marginal and are mostly discernible with the relative low light/high ISO.

And people don't fly drones at night.
 
I think that this camera being unveiled at the Cinegear Expo here in Los Angeles, hints a little to the intended market. That translates to a higher perceived value and possibly higher pricing. It will certainly be a feather in Cinegears hat to help with attendance which has steadily increased over the years. Anything with "cine" in front of it or around it, just costs more. No doubt the pent up demand for a true AF100 successor will finally be realized. I'm hoping like everyone else that the price will be reasonable and in line with the new camera's feature set.
 
Mitch said the pricing would land between the GH5 and LT. I think it will be below $10K for sure.
 
My guess is s35 FS5 competitor, probably recording to SD cards. And I'm hoping it does have the Varicam name attached to it...As an LT owner, it would be great to see the Varicam name make a bit more headway in a market full of Sony FS's and Canon C100s. But they're not breaking into that market with P2, it's just way too expensive to compete. So I definitely think SD. Especially since they say "low cost media and workflow."

Panasonic's cinema camera product line is beginning to look a lot like Sony and Canon's...Varicam 35 at the top(F55/C700) LT for the midrange(F5/C300) and then this at the sub-$10,000 level(FS7/FS5/C100). Took them a bit longer to get here, but definitely very smart.
 
As much as I like Canon's color science, Panasonics is great as well. I miss the colors I used to get with my HXP170 sometimes.
 
puredrifting said:
There has been a hole in the Panasonic lineup for years so hopefully this camera will fill that need. It's definitely not for an M43 handheld GH5 with XLRs but only the Mitch knows what it actually is. I doubt if Panasonic will ever make a FF camera unless it is a super high end $100k camera made to compete with the likes of the Arri 65 or Red Whatever Crazy Insanity sensor size and raster size the future holds. That leaves S35, they need that to be the Varicam Mini, if that's what this is.
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The Mitch?
 
S-35 is the film standard.
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Exactly this. Plus Panasonic are calling this a cinema camera and putting 'cinematic imagery' as their first bullet point. Now, many people produce very 'cinematic' work on M4/3 cameras - but no-one sells them as 'cinema cameras'. The 'cinema' format is S35. Most cinema lenses cover S35. It's a S35 sensor.*

*Whether or not it has any JVC-esque trickery built in, it's a S35 sensor.
 
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