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Chris_Keaton said:
I think an exceptionally evil person should qualify. Monsterous beings don't necessarily have to be supernatural.
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But you could have done a movie about a "monsterous" person for Quest Fest, or Loss Fest, etc. I think it'd be cool to have a focused fest that deals with actual monsters, there are tons to choose from. Also if you want to explore that theme then it's altogether possible to have a monster movie where there is a human is more of a monster than the monster (classic monster movie reversal), i'm sure will get that, wherein the theme is "what makes a monster and what makes a man?" wherein the man is more monster than the monster is.
 
I would much rather see Monster's in the vien of werewolves, sea creatures et al than serial killer's or mean evil people

Be creative !
 
J.R. Hudson said:
I would much rather see Monster's in the vien of werewolves, sea creatures et al than serial killer's or mean evil people

Be creative !
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Just remember, these are low budget indy flicks. Many of the entries won't have great effects and could end up looking quite cheesy if forced in this direction.

This coming from the guy with access to THIS.

I feel for those who may be pushed into one direction.

And yes, I know that if you are creative you don't even have to show the monster. :)
Sometimes that's the scariest monster of all.

We need to know though one way or the other. I'm fine either way.
Some people have already started writing who are not.

MAH
 
I'm sitting here thinking that just because we often refer to a child abuser as "a monster" doesn't mean he/she literally is one. I would suggest that we save our stories about pathologies for the winter fest where the human dramatic element is more appropriate.
 
I've been thinking of grabbing one of those spfx masks for about 2 years now... just because I wouldn't ever have to get a new costume for halloween ever again-- those things are just about perfect. Really cool stuff.

Anyway-- if anyone is having a problem thinking of monsters/creatures/etc. I happened to have stumbled across a website with an actual list of monsters/creatures/freaks of nature... from actual cultures across the globe. Its a pretty interesting resource: http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Check it out if you need any info. By the way, someone would be my god if they actually made a movie about this monster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolpertinger

Some quick facts about the wolpertinger:
It has the body of a rabbit, antlers of a deer, wings of a bat, and the feet of a duck
They are incredibly hard to catch, but there is one known way:
You must find a beautiful woman and have her show her breasts to the creature, this will cause the creature to become a fumbling love puppet-- making it very easy to catch and destroy.

Yep. You read right.
 
Yep interesting, i mean with it being halloween etc, (Well over this fest) i think the general enthusiasm is for films that celebrate monsters (somewhat more literally).

But would we normally get so many psychological interpretations of monsters in a fest like this anyway? I'm sure its not a concern.

I know im entering and im thinking of all the kinds of beasties that exist in folklore and legend!
 
Zak Forsman said:
I'm sitting here thinking that just because we often refer to a child abuser as "a monster" doesn't mean he/she literally is one. I would suggest that we save our stories about pathologies for the winter fest where the human dramatic element is more appropriate.
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I agree, but as long as 'human' and 'sociopath' remain in the actual rules of this Fest you can't DQ someone for going in that direction.

If you all want out of this world Monsters then just remove that portion and you'll be fine.

No?

MAH
 
Been thinking about it alot this morning and I'm really liking the idea of the fest being restricted to actual monsters and not monster-like things or people. No one's brought it up but I'm guessing monster trucks aren't what you all had in mind either.

MAH - in regards to not having access to FX and such due to low budgets, I'm finding lots of resources on how to pull off what I'm needing on the cheap. Or at least relatively cheap. Looks like its going to take a LOT of work and practice on my part to keep any FX realistic, but pushing the fest in this direction is pushing me to explore something I normally wouldnt do given looser guidelines. And to me thats pretty damn cool.
 
Jeff Anderson said:
Been thinking about it alot this morning and I'm really liking the idea of the fest being restricted to actual monsters and not monster-like things or people. No one's brought it up but I'm guessing monster trucks aren't what you all had in mind either.

MAH - in regards to not having access to FX and such due to low budgets, I'm finding lots of resources on how to pull off what I'm needing on the cheap. Or at least relatively cheap. Looks like its going to take a LOT of work and practice on my part to keep any FX realistic, but pushing the fest in this direction is pushing me to explore something I normally wouldnt do given looser guidelines. And to me thats pretty damn cool.
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Agree. 100%. :thumbup:
 
Jeff Anderson said:
MAH - in regards to not having access to FX and such due to low budgets, I'm finding lots of resources on how to pull off what I'm needing on the cheap. Or at least relatively cheap. Looks like its going to take a LOT of work and practice on my part to keep any FX realistic, but pushing the fest in this direction is pushing me to explore something I normally wouldnt do given looser guidelines. And to me thats pretty damn cool.
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I agree, I like the challenge myself.
Like I said, I'm good either way. :beer:

But if this is what they want a rule change will have to be made.
 
KOHR said:
I've been thinking of grabbing one of those spfx masks for about 2 years now... just because I wouldn't ever have to get a new costume for halloween ever again-- those things are just about perfect. Really cool stuff.
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I have access to the old man mask and the zombie version whenever I want. They are really incredibly detailed. :thumbup:
 
Should we create and sticky a thread inside this fest category that has links to resources, information , tutorials for the kinds of things we may all be doing? or just keep stuff like that in the separate filmmaking production threads?
 
Greater restrictions can lead to higher creativity.

If someone is truly strapped with zero access to makeup or fx, then they can go watch some classic horror and hitchcock and learn to use shadows to hide things, while still having literal monsters.

Also, they could take the time to learn some basic makeup or costuming, because after all, these fests are about learning
 
Michael - We fully understand that if we restrict the definition than we have to alter the rule definition. We haven't altered it yet as the final decision on how to define it has not yet been reached.

You can be sure we will update the definition in the rules and we will note here in the thread that the rules have been updated/altered and what was changed. There is no need to keep telling us to change the rule. We are aware we have to change the rule.
 
Larry R said:
Michael - We fully understand that if we restrict the definition than we have to alter the rule definition. We haven't altered it yet as the final decision on how to define it has not yet been reached.

You can be sure we will update the definition in the rules and we will note here in the thread that the rules have been updated/altered and what was changed. There is no need to keep telling us to change the rule. We are aware we have to change the rule.
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No problem, Larry. Just not sure what the problem is? If you just want out of this world type Monsters just omit the paragraph pertaining to humans and sociopaths?

And I'm not telling you, I'm asking IF you are going to.

My push for the information is because some people have already started writing for this and I know a couple of people who have headed down the sociopath road.

By the "if we restrict the definition" it sounds like you haven't decided completely. I thought that you had.

I'll wait to see what you guys do. I just hope we get something soon so we can get moving.

Thanks,

MAH
 
Jeff Anderson said:
but pushing the fest in this direction is pushing me to explore something I normally wouldnt do given looser guidelines. And to me thats pretty damn cool.
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Exactly exactly exactly!

Creativity does not spring from freedom, it comes about because of the restrictions placed upon you.

We've always had vague, loose interpretations of the theme before. Maybe it's time to shake it up a bit and require strict adherence to the literal interpretation of the theme...
 
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