OFFICIAL/NO LEAK: Canon 7D Official US Press Release

Yes, but the 7D must co-exist with the 5DII which has only just been released, and the 5DII is the more superior camera in the model line up. It's just wierd that it doesn't have all the frame rates and the 7D does. Sooo ... it needs to be corrected. If it can do 30P I would think it can to 24P.

Wishfull thinking, it's a business, they will make you buy a new camera, the 5diii or what ever the next model is after the 5d2.
 
Anyone know how the jello effect would be compared to the GH1/Red/Ex1? Can anyone confirm if the dual digic processors should eliminate most of the jello effect compared to the 5d and make it comparable to GH1 levels or above?
 
From the looks of the "Passage" video you might not have to worry about jello, but it seems the camera has been programed to soap opera.

Not quite soap opera, that would be for *cough* 30p :D At 24p it's programmed for lifetime movie channel.

Not that one is superior to the other...
 
Anyone know how the jello effect would be compared to the GH1/Red/Ex1? Can anyone confirm if the dual digic processors should eliminate most of the jello effect compared to the 5d and make it comparable to GH1 levels or above?

I think we should wait until someone can compare them. And you better believe someone will.
 
The Passage footage is just stunning!
Have they shot some shots with a tilt lens? The bottom part seems to be out of focus while the upper is not. Yet some other parts seem like blurring in post, where the center is in focus while everything around it is not. Some scenes do not look like having natural shallow DOF to me.
 
Have they shot some shots with a tilt lens? The bottom part seems to be out of focus while the upper is not. Yet some other parts seem like blurring in post, where the center is in focus while everything around it is not. Some scenes do not look like having natural shallow DOF to me.

They list the lenses at the end. I don't think I saw a tilt lens listed.
 
Wishfull thinking, it's a business, they will make you buy a new camera, the 5diii or what ever the next model is after the 5d2.

...and yet, canon went ahead and did a pretty major firmware uprade to the 5DII and gave it manual controls when they realized they accidently gave the 5DII a world class video (cine) sensor. They have been reconfiguring what this camera is capable of since the month it was released. They did not try to push users into the 7D (which I'm pretty sure they knew was coming) by withholding manual controls on the 5DII, but went ahead and installed the capability to try and satisfy their customers and make the camera even more in demand. Giving the 5DII varying frame rate in no way cuts into 7D sales. they are two different animals. One of them is built for speed (7D) and the other is built for art (5DII).

Not giving the 5DII varing frame rates will damage 5DII sales. That's something Canon is not prepared to do.
 
John, apparently they did use three tilt-shift lenses: the TS-E90, TS-E45 and TS-E24.

Ok. Thanks for pointing it out. They used a lot of lenses I am sure to showcase all the possibilities. The video is beautiful. You have to also realize the settings, the models, the make up and hair gives it a high production quality. And the post work of course.
 
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its bytes because its a big B not a small.

So if my online Bandwith Converter is correct, Pansonic's 17Mbps data rate is equal to about 2.125 MB (capital B)?

Would love to know how compression stacks up between the two cameras. I've used the Lumix, haven't got my hands on a Canon yet.

Cheers,
 
Anybody read what Jim had to say over at RED... Seems like school yard stuff.

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=34369

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It looks like canon struck a chord, LOL. I don't think jannard realizes that canon just stumbled into the VDSLR game, and they've been trying to catch up to themselves since the release of the 5DII. It's not as conspiratorial as he makes it out to be. They didn't realize that this video afterthought would become what it is. They've done a pretty good job trying to step up and do the right thing ie; manual controls ...and for free, Jim.
 
Can someone with finer eyes than mine (or that is, a finer monitor) tell me if they see a lot of aliasing in any of the sample vids? I take it that to spit out 1080P the 7D is skipping rows like the 5D, but is it too hopeful to think that it's NOT??
 
2.125 MB/s is correct. And I can tell you from experience using the 5d mark II and GH1 side by side. The codec is incomparable. The 5d's codec holds up better than most anything this side of RED/uncompressed including Sony's Ex1/Ex3. The GH1's codec is what has caused me to put mine up for sale. The 7d having a slightly better bitrate than the 5d is simply icing on the cake.
 
Can someone with finer eyes than mine (or that is, a finer monitor) tell me if they see a lot of aliasing in any of the sample vids? I take it that to spit out 1080P the 7D is skipping rows like the 5D, but is it too hopeful to think that it's NOT??

I wrote this on cinema5d.com:

Hmm... looking at the blinds in the window @ 1:41... and the pinstripes on his sleeve @ 4:13... seems like aliasing is still a problem though.

Not too bad on this clip though:
http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadg...s-uber-pro-features-enhanced-hd-video-capture

Just count on the good folks at Popular Science to give us a noise sample in... 256 colors GIF format. Way to go guys.
 
datarate breakdown
note: The 7D shots 24p instead of 30p so it is 20% less compression than 5D!

HDV =3.13 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
GH1 =2.125 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]


7D below
=5.5 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
=44 Mbps [Megabit-per-second]
 
Anybody read what Jim had to say over at RED... Seems like school yard stuff.

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=34369

I may have just become a Canon fanboy, can't wait until some proper test footage pops up.

OMFG THAT IS TOO FUNNY!

He really should have stayed out of it imo. The Red One is uber fabulous, it really is, but this is a whole-nother class for a whole another segment. It just gives credence to the 7D :thumbup:
We'll see how this plays out, which ever way it goes, WE FREAKING BENEFIT MOFOs!

EDIT: I was reading further down that thread and seems like people are actually upset that Canon is releasing improved products for lower prices... WTF! I guess since they've been locked in the 10yr product cycle Red seems to be shooting for, they forget other companies make new sh!t ALL THE DAMN TIME. I don;t use a computer for more than 6 months cause I want something better and faster. If YOU don't want to spend the money on it why do I have to stay in the back of the class with YOU!???

Put out some cameras cause those brochures don't seem to shoot very well, OF COURSE YOU DO FIRMWARE UPDATES ALL THE TIME, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE DAMN CAMERA!!!! I really love what I see from the Red One, but the fanboy responses really bunched my panties this morning!
 
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