Wishfull thinking, it's a business, they will make you buy a new camera, the 5diii or what ever the next model is after the 5d2.
OFFICIAL/NO LEAK: Canon 7D Official US Press Release
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Wishfull thinking, it's a business, they will make you buy a new camera, the 5diii or what ever the next model is after the 5d2.
speculator
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Anyone know how the jello effect would be compared to the GH1/Red/Ex1? Can anyone confirm if the dual digic processors should eliminate most of the jello effect compared to the 5d and make it comparable to GH1 levels or above?
plasmasmp
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Not quite soap opera, that would be for *cough* 30p
At 24p it's programmed for lifetime movie channel.Not that one is superior to the other...
Kevin Dorsey
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I think we should wait until someone can compare them. And you better believe someone will.
Have they shot some shots with a tilt lens? The bottom part seems to be out of focus while the upper is not. Yet some other parts seem like blurring in post, where the center is in focus while everything around it is not. Some scenes do not look like having natural shallow DOF to me.
Adam J McKay
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Anybody read what Jim had to say over at RED... Seems like school yard stuff.
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=34369
I may have just become a Canon fanboy, can't wait until some proper test footage pops up.
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=34369
I may have just become a Canon fanboy, can't wait until some proper test footage pops up.
John Caballero
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They list the lenses at the end. I don't think I saw a tilt lens listed.
...and yet, canon went ahead and did a pretty major firmware uprade to the 5DII and gave it manual controls when they realized they accidently gave the 5DII a world class video (cine) sensor. They have been reconfiguring what this camera is capable of since the month it was released. They did not try to push users into the 7D (which I'm pretty sure they knew was coming) by withholding manual controls on the 5DII, but went ahead and installed the capability to try and satisfy their customers and make the camera even more in demand. Giving the 5DII varying frame rate in no way cuts into 7D sales. they are two different animals. One of them is built for speed (7D) and the other is built for art (5DII).
Not giving the 5DII varing frame rates will damage 5DII sales. That's something Canon is not prepared to do.
John Caballero
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Ok. Thanks for pointing it out. They used a lot of lenses I am sure to showcase all the possibilities. The video is beautiful. You have to also realize the settings, the models, the make up and hair gives it a high production quality. And the post work of course.
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bill totolo
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So if my online Bandwith Converter is correct, Pansonic's 17Mbps data rate is equal to about 2.125 MB (capital B)?
Would love to know how compression stacks up between the two cameras. I've used the Lumix, haven't got my hands on a Canon yet.
Cheers,
It looks like canon struck a chord, LOL. I don't think jannard realizes that canon just stumbled into the VDSLR game, and they've been trying to catch up to themselves since the release of the 5DII. It's not as conspiratorial as he makes it out to be. They didn't realize that this video afterthought would become what it is. They've done a pretty good job trying to step up and do the right thing ie; manual controls ...and for free, Jim.
ryansheffer
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2.125 MB/s is correct. And I can tell you from experience using the 5d mark II and GH1 side by side. The codec is incomparable. The 5d's codec holds up better than most anything this side of RED/uncompressed including Sony's Ex1/Ex3. The GH1's codec is what has caused me to put mine up for sale. The 7d having a slightly better bitrate than the 5d is simply icing on the cake.
I wrote this on cinema5d.com:
Not too bad on this clip though:
http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadg...s-uber-pro-features-enhanced-hd-video-capture
Just count on the good folks at Popular Science to give us a noise sample in... 256 colors GIF format. Way to go guys.
Nik Manning
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datarate breakdown
note: The 7D shots 24p instead of 30p so it is 20% less compression than 5D!
HDV =3.13 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
GH1 =2.125 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
7D below
=5.5 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
=44 Mbps [Megabit-per-second]
note: The 7D shots 24p instead of 30p so it is 20% less compression than 5D!
HDV =3.13 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
GH1 =2.125 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
7D below
=5.5 MB/sec [Megabyte-per-second]
=44 Mbps [Megabit-per-second]
Rakesh Jacob
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OMFG THAT IS TOO FUNNY!
He really should have stayed out of it imo. The Red One is uber fabulous, it really is, but this is a whole-nother class for a whole another segment. It just gives credence to the 7D :thumbup:
We'll see how this plays out, which ever way it goes, WE FREAKING BENEFIT MOFOs!
EDIT: I was reading further down that thread and seems like people are actually upset that Canon is releasing improved products for lower prices... WTF! I guess since they've been locked in the 10yr product cycle Red seems to be shooting for, they forget other companies make new sh!t ALL THE DAMN TIME. I don;t use a computer for more than 6 months cause I want something better and faster. If YOU don't want to spend the money on it why do I have to stay in the back of the class with YOU!???
Put out some cameras cause those brochures don't seem to shoot very well, OF COURSE YOU DO FIRMWARE UPDATES ALL THE TIME, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE DAMN CAMERA!!!! I really love what I see from the Red One, but the fanboy responses really bunched my panties this morning!
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Lee Wilson
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It seems so:
And what's really cool is that PAL-users also has the option of 24p for filmout.Really nice move, Canon!
•1920x1080: 30/24 fps (NTSC), 25/24 fps (PAL)
What is the difference between 24fps NTSC 1080p and 24fps PAL 1080p ???