Nikon D7200 Officially Announced

... Unless Nikon decides to provide a fix to these fatal omissions, I think their time as a player in the video market is nearing its end...
The 4K hasn't hit the meat of the market yet. The cheapest FF 4K recording available as of now is A7s+Shogun at about $5,000 (with media). When a 5D based 4K model comes out, it'll be somewhere around $3,500 (and no one knows specs yet anyway). For the three top hybrid manufacturers in Sony, Canon and Nikon, the bulk of the profits will come from products in the ~ $800-$2,500 range. Until then, they're letting their pro divisions serve as their testing ground and will wait out until the codecs (HEVC, I assume), the processing power and the media prices have come down sufficiently. In other words, some 60,000 units that GH4 ships is a drop in the bucket for the big boys. They're waiting until all the circumstances - including the 4K streaming and Blu-Ray discs - are working in their favor. Then they'll come out swinging with their big stick.

PS. Mind you, the above is about a consumer/enthusiast portion of the market. The high end/pro division has a slew of products out there already but those, obviously, carry a substantial "early adopter" price premium. That premium is getting smaller and smaller, however, and may be close to negligible within a couple of years.

My own prediction - and my batting average is around 50/50 here - is that in-camera APS-C/FF 4K hybrids will be seen within a year. Sony's A9/A99 (~ $3,500) has been bandied about for a while now. If that is announced at the NAB'15, then the floodgates will open in 9-12 months time to allow Sony to capitalize on its technological lead.
 
And is it CONFIRMED that there's no LV aperture control? It's not listed in the new specs either way, so that could be an oversight - with several newer bodies having this, they may have assumed it's a np-brainer.

This is an important feature and a differentiator from the D7100. If they have it, they would say it. Prominently.
 
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Samsung NX1 offers 4k and h.265 for $1500. Not sure about the mount though. H.265 will be huge for small budget 4k, also 1080p with H.265 camcorders would do well for live streaming. Sony is doing a one year 0% financing on the new Sony FS7 which costs $8k (I understand it's not for everyone but), has internal 10bit 422 4k with several codecs, 1080/180fps for slow motion, and external 12bit raw recording option. It's not for low budget like the $1500 cameras but you can make a movie and do a theater release with this camera. I am exited to see what NAB 2015 will bring.
 
The NX1 is super sharp and super clean in 4K, it records very nice 1080p120, and has better DR than the GH4 and a much bigger sensor. But it also has some big drawbacks: the rolling shutter is worse than anything else in 4K; H.265 is great but right now it's a pain to work with; DR could be even better with a wider gamma curve; and there's no speedbooster or lensturbo for the Samsung NX mount, which means you're stuck at APS-C, no FF-equivalent option even though it's mirrorless. And the lens selection is very limited (no Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 for this one, for example).
 
A professional hybrid shooter does not want a GH4 or a NX1. They could use a D810, D750 or 5D MK3. 1DC being the best one right now. The older D800 could work.
 
well, I have to admit that I'm not impressed by the 750's body design; not a slap in the face, true, but not even a semi-pro design either in my eyes, too. While IQ is really good, it feels a bit lukewarm in my hands, not exactly what I would like to exspect from a new body. the old D800 is great for stills, but video? So ssssoft, aliasing, moiree... I sold it.
 
A professional hybrid shooter does not want a GH4 or a NX1. They could use a D810, D750 or 5D MK3. 1DC being the best one right now. The older D800 could work.

I'm a "professional hybrid shooter" and the NX1 will be my next camera. I make my living from video, in the studio and on location. I've got a D7100 which looks beautiful but has its limitations. I've got a big Panasonic "video" camera for events where shots can't be planned. A 4K camera with good IQ in the "I own it bag" for $1500 that will take all my Nikon glass? Sounds great. I'll rent anything up from there. I don't need full frame but I do need more resolution for keying. The BMC 4K never did it for me, and the BMC doesn't have the resolution or sensor size. And forget the pocket. The full frame Nikons don't offer anything I need that the 7100 does. The 5Dmk3 is overpriced and I don't care for the color, nor the full-frame slice-of-DOF look. The GH4 has a small sensor, too much noise, and after getting spoiled by perfect footage right off the card (or right off the Atomos drive) with Nikon, I'm not interested in fighting that camera's look. And speaking of Atomos, I'll probably end up with a 4K recorder that will outlast my next few cameras.

I really have next-to-zero interest in full frame as well. I don't need the low-light capability, and I'm just fine with a sensor that's roughly the FOV size used for decades of hollywood flicks. I assume we'll see an NX1 speedbooster if sales and interest continue, I could see owning one for special uses. Not really high on my list.

I've researched the hell out of what my next purchase will be, and the NX1 checks off enough boxes to be very useful for my BUSINESS for a while.
 
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I'm a "professional hybrid shooter" and the NX1 will be my next camera. I make my living from video, in the studio and on location. I've got a D7100 which looks beautiful but has its limitations. I've got a big Panasonic "video" camera for events where shots can't be planned. A 4K camera with good IQ in the "I own it bag" for $1500 that will take all my Nikon glass? Sounds great. I'll rent anything up from there. I don't need full frame but I do need more resolution for keying. The BMC 4K never did it for me, and the BMC doesn't have the resolution or sensor size. And forget the pocket. The full frame Nikons don't offer anything I need that the 7100 does. The 5Dmk3 is overpriced and I don't care for the color, nor the full-frame slice-of-DOF look. The GH4 has a small sensor, too much noise, and after getting spoiled by perfect footage right off the card (or right off the Atomos drive) with Nikon, I'm not interested in fighting that camera's look. And speaking of Atomos, I'll probably end up with a 4K recorder that will outlast my next few cameras.

I really have next-to-zero interest in full frame as well. I don't need the low-light capability, and I'm just fine with a sensor that's roughly the FOV size used for decades of hollywood flicks. I assume we'll see an NX1 speedbooster if sales and interest continue, I could see owning one for special uses. Not really high on my list.

I've researched the hell out of what my next purchase will be, and the NX1 checks off enough boxes to be very useful for my BUSINESS for a while.

EXCELLENT summation of what it is to live with these cameras on a daily-working basis.
 
I did not mean to sound so absolute as I did. Ofcourse people make hybrid business with other cameras than fullframe DSLR but my point was rather that the fullframe DSLRs dominate a lot of the proffessional stills-market for photojournalism, news etc. But almost all of these photographers is starting to need video as something they can deliver. This is where I see that a capable hybrid fullframe from Nikon or Canon could really shine, as of now there are mostly compromises.
 
But I want to sound absolute now: I really regret selling my D800. :-)
Waste the best part of the day configerating this silly 750, at least I found a menue function called 'pet portrait' - hello, anyone at home in Tokyo?
 
I really have next-to-zero interest in full frame as well. I don't need the low-light capability, and I'm just fine with a sensor that's roughly the FOV size used for decades of hollywood flicks.
I'm not that big on full frame, but sometimes it's just right for a particular shot. The thing about the D800 and D750 is you can shoot video in either full frame or APS-C center crop. That's a 1.5x crop factor difference, which also makes your lenses far more versatile.
 
The thing about the D800 and D750 is you can shoot video in either full frame or APS-C center crop.
yeah, I thought so, too. But in reality the crop on the d800 is even softer than FX, which is quite an achievement... :-(
same on the D750, I'm afraid, but I will check it tonight.
D810's crop is good.
 
From slashcam.de:

a7S:
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D810:
1288-ISO340-ISO340.jpg


D800:
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5D3:
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D5300:
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So I emailed Nikon as to why they're only allowing the 1080 60P to be shot in the 1.3 crop mode. Their response - "It is a limitation of our technology." I responded by saying that the D5500 & D5300 which are lower priced models are not crippled by the 1.3 crop. Still awaiting their response lol.
 
It could be that it's a new sensor and it does full readout, but can't do it fast enough for 60p at full size.
 
It could be that it's a new sensor and it does full readout, but can't do it fast enough for 60p at full size.

You don't think it would be the same sensor found in the D5500 which was released a few months ago? Man, that's a bummer though if it doesn't get addressed.
 
Well, no idea, really. I'm just saying there can actually be technical reasons for this. Or maybe it's just BS, only they really know.
 
So, a Russian based photo site says that the new J5 is already registered there and other rumors have it with 4K.

Meaning that Nikon can put 4K into their $800 mirrorless but not into their upmarket DSLR's?
 
Not surprising: it's much easier to get 4K out of a small sensor than out of a big one. Phones got 4K before DSLRs.

Plus, Nikon doesn't seem to be taking the pro video market seriously enough. They surely can add RAW video recording to any of their DSLRs, ML style, and the DR would be amazing. I would change my a7S for a D810 in a heartbeat. And it would probably take one week for a team of three or four engineers.
 
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