Nikon D7200 Officially Announced

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Sumfun

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Nikon officially announced the D7200 today. Here are the specs from Nikon Australia, and a first impression review from DPReview:

https://mynikonlife.com.au/gear/digital-slr-cameras/d7200/

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d7200

Basically, the D7200 only offers incremental improvements over the D7100, the most notables ones being a larger frame buffer, improved autofocus in low light, and the addition of Wi-Fi and NFC. For video, there is no 4k, no tilting LCD, and no variable aperture in LiveView. They've added a Flat picture profile and 1080p60 at the 1.3 crop mode.

DPReview thinks that the D7200 uses the same Sony sensor as the D5500 and D3300. Well, those cameras have 1080p60 at the DX (uncropped) mode, too, so I don't know what happened with the D7200 implementation. Unless there is a major improvement in IQ, I really don't see a need to upgrade. In fact, if you're only interested in video, it's probably better to "downgrade" to the D5500.
 
By the time Nikon figures this out we will be shopping 8k. I was one of the first Nikon Video shooters starting with the Nikon d90, I have been through half a dozen cameras since and still using Nikon but now is the time to move on. Nab 2015 will show a domination of 4k equipment and support. Canon is feeling the heat too and must show up with a 4k sub $5k if they plan on holding their share of the market (the mark 4 might have 4k). Gh4, FZ1000, Sony A7S and many video cameras such as The Panasonic x1000 which is now only $2800 with 20x optical lens, xlr audio, wifi and much more, at this price range even with the small sensor it is very attractive for event videographers.
 
And don't forget: Samsung NX1 and NX500, which to my eyes have an IQ edge over the GH4 in many respects.

I don't need 4K, but there are plenty of great options in the market today, and Nikon should have at least one strong sellling point if they want to be noted in the market a bit more. That could be 4K, but also a better gamma profile, one that keeps alive all the DR from these amazing sensors.
 
I can not see why a filmmaker would upgrade to only 1080 which you already have when 4k is already here and the price is right. The only reason I would buy another 1080 now is if I get high frame rate for slow mo, I am talking at least 120fps. Other than that save your money and work with what you got, and when one is ready to buy, get a future proof 4k camera. Now if I was needing a DSLR primarily for photography that's another story. Panasonic, Sony, Blackmagic, Aja and JVC have surprised us with many 4k cameras and will do even more next month at NAB, Canon will come out with something for sure, they absolutely have too if they don't want to fall far behind!!!! Nikon is a very good company for photography but lacks momentum and trailing last, come on Nikon you can do better, what do you have to loose, are you trying to protect a 20k camera and will only act when you are forced into the game like Canon? You can truly shine, sensors are out there, get into the game before it's too late.
 
TL;DR:

  • Best video DSLR choice from Nikon in APS-C format: D5300
  • Best video DSLR choice from Nikon in full-frame format: D750

Question for Nikon: If you're a still photographer looking for a semi-pro 24 Mpix DSLR for less than $1500, why would you buy the D7200 instead of the D610?
 
I've shot the 7100 as my main "pretty" video camera for a couple years now, very pleased with the image and functionality.

I've rented a 5300 when I need 1080 @ 60P.

So... I could envision upgrading, might cost me $500 or so.

But it's much easier envisioning getting an NX1.

Which makes it easy to envision moving to Samsung for stills over a year or two - their 2 zooms cover 90% of the still focal lengths I use for work, and I can use all my gorgeous Nikkors on the NX1.

Never thought I'd be toying with the idea of leaving Nikon (and not for Canon, either!), at least not in the next 6 years or something.

Samsung kind of blew my mind with their video-centric firmware update that addressed about 90% of review complaints... along with their SDK release. And the fact that ML has confirmed they're "talking to Samsung".

Looks like they're in the game to win.
 
I was seriously considering upgrading my d7100 for the d7200 if I had control over the aperture in live view... now its totally not worth it... I think I will jump in the 4k pool on my next upgrade before the year is out.
 
I gave up on Nikon after the release of the D7100. Sold everything and only kept a D7000 with couple zooms and couple primes for photography. Nikon came a long way in image quality from the D90 to their current releases but that is not good enough, they keep acting silly and holding out on basic video features. Canon now has dual pixel technology perfected in their EOS/Cinema cameras and shoots smooth auto in run and gun settings, so does Sony, Panasonic. If Canon releases a 5D mark IV with dual pixal and 4k Nikon will be left in the dark. If I had to buy anything right now I would go for the gh4 and just buy a wide lens, even their DM-FZ1000 which you can grab for as low as $700 has 4k, peaking and lens. For $2700 you can get the new jvc with 4k, 1080p 4:2:2 at 60p internal recording, 3g-SDI, XLR, Live streaming and more. Smaller sensor but an array of video production features. Surely we are not asking for all of these features at once in a DSLR form factor but at least give us the basics. It took Nikon more than 2 years to catch up to the 1080/60p

Pretty soon you are going to have customers calling you and asking for 4k, you can buy a 4k 50" screen for as little as $700. it's here even if Nikon doesn't see it. We have been asking Nikon to give us aperture control in live view in APS-C cameras for years now. Their answer has been "Sorry No". My answer to Nikon was clear to "You are not going to bog me down". I can only imagine when will they add features like peaking or 4k. What's funny about all of this again they have no cinema line like canon that they need to protect, so in other words Nikon has no excuse.
 
Ken1212 said:
I gave up on Nikon after the release of the D7100. Sold everything and only kept a D7000 with couple zooms and couple primes for photography. Nikon came a long way in image quality from the D90 to their current releases but that is not good enough, they keep acting silly and holding out on basic video features. Canon now has dual pixel technology perfected in their EOS/Cinema cameras and shoots smooth auto in run and gun settings, so does Sony, Panasonic. If Canon releases a 5D mark IV with dual pixal and 4k Nikon will be left in the dark. If I had to buy anything right now I would go for the gh4 and just buy a wide lens, even their DM-FZ1000 which you can grab for as low as $700 has 4k, peaking and lens. For $2700 you can get the new jvc with 4k, 1080p 4:2:2 at 60p internal recording, 3g-SDI, XLR, Live streaming and more. Smaller sensor but an array of video production features. Surely we are not asking for all of these features at once in a DSLR form factor but at least give us the basics. It took Nikon more than 2 years to catch up to the 1080/60p

Pretty soon you are going to have customers calling you and asking for 4k, you can buy a 4k 50" screen for as little as $700. it's here even if Nikon doesn't see it. We have been asking Nikon to give us aperture control in live view in APS-C cameras for years now. Their answer has been "Sorry No". My answer to Nikon was clear to "You are not going to bog me down". I can only imagine when will they add features like peaking or 4k. What's funny about all of this again they have no cinema line like canon that they need to protect, so in other words Nikon has no excuse.
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I think Ken is absolutely right.
We have differing desires for the look we want from our camera, but his assessment is right on I think.
I personally don't want the look generated by the GH4 or the new JVC and Samsung...but customers will.
Product shoots? Check.
Sports shoot? Check.
Corporate? Check.
Interview? Check.

Cinema? No.

All these 4K cameras mentioned have low dynamic range and lots of macro-blocking, and this will negatively impact their ability to produce what most cinema-style shooters are after. BUT they are going to give the "POP" that everyone else wants and that's where the sales are going to come from.

And 4K TV's are most definitely going to be a consumer favorite.

I almost had a D750 - then the recall hit. That gave me time to reconsider, and it also delayed any possibility of a high bit-rate hack.

Ken's point about Nikon not having any high-end "Pro" line to protect drives it home. The TRIPLE bit-rate hack that was done for the other Nikons proves that the bit-rate was foolishly chosen by Nikon to be too low. And their lack of focus peaking means that for video shooters who will VERY often be shooting manual lenses there will always be a need for the external monitor. DRAG.

Nikon came so close... Focus peaking and a much higher bit-rate on their newer models would have put them ALREADY in the hands of a boat-load of shooters of all ranks. Myself included. Instead they have too many models, too much confusion, and too much compromise. As a result almost NOBODY seems to be actually using these new cameras for very much video work. A search reveals what seems like 3/4 of all Nikon D750 and D810 videos on the web are either only camera reviews and comparisons, or videos produced by Nikon themselves.

Except for the lenses that came with my GH2... ALL of my glass is Nikon, so I really am a fan of their products....just not their digital camera bodies anymore.

Unless Nikon decides to provide a fix to these fatal omissions, I think their time as a player in the video market is nearing its end.
 
they need to make a camera for the hybrid shooter, and thats where they could really shine. For the D810 just a few small features would make a big difference for someone who's serious about both stills and video. I would love it as my B-cam if it had peaking and a slightly higher bit-rate. That would mean I could use it in such a small formfactor that it would be a great tool next to something bigger. Right now I have the d800 and while it makes me availible for stills-work I often cannot trust it for video.
 
Nikon cameras make huge jumps in video performance with every new model. D5100 to D5200 to D5300, D3200 to D3300, D7000 to D7100, D610 to D750, D800 to D810, and these changes do not appear at all on release in the spec sheet. That's why I am interested in seeing how the images out of their new D5500 & D7200 will look like.
 
What baffles me is that Nikon has released a new wireless lav mic along with this camera for video use. Yet fails to put aperture control on the camera in video mode or a handy flip or tilt screen. Both the models above and below the D7200 have either a flip or tilt screen. Also what's the deal with this 1.3x crop in 50/60p mode. Again, none of their other cameras require a crop for these frame rates.
 
Just to clarify -

Is it confirmed that 60p is only with the cropped sensor? I browsed the specs quickly but didn't come away with that conclusion. I'd be pretty amazed if that was the case.

And is it CONFIRMED that there's no LV aperture control? It's not listed in the new specs either way, so that could be an oversight - with several newer bodies having this, they may have assumed it's a np-brainer.

I'll be curious to see if anyone does some video tests with this body, but overall I'm kind of amazed at what a lackluster upgrade this is. Hell, I already have a flat profile on my 7100.

There may be a bounty of still-shooting upgrades on this thing, but my eyes kinda glazed over that stuff.
 
I read it to be like the d7100's is.

So just 60p in the 1.3 crop as opposed to the 60i on the d7100.

Certainly not a confirmation, just how I read it.

I hope it at least works.

I still have never gotten the 60i to work right on the d7100, but the 720/60p has been really really nice.
 
Michael Carter said:
Just to clarify -

Is it confirmed that 60p is only with the cropped sensor? I browsed the specs quickly but didn't come away with that conclusion. I'd be pretty amazed if that was the case.

And is it CONFIRMED that there's no LV aperture control? It's not listed in the new specs either way, so that could be an oversight - with several newer bodies having this, they may have assumed it's a np-brainer.

I'll be curious to see if anyone does some video tests with this body, but overall I'm kind of amazed at what a lackluster upgrade this is. Hell, I already have a flat profile on my 7100.

There may be a bounty of still-shooting upgrades on this thing, but my eyes kinda glazed over that stuff.
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According to the specs, 1080 60P is only available in 1.3 crop mode. Sigh. Doesn't mention anything about Live View aperture control either so I'm guessing it won't be a feature.

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/dslr-cameras/D7200.html
 
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