New Camera Release at NAB

Mark Whalen said:
Ditto on missing the DVC30, Vox. The image was great for a small 1/4" cam, and it paired nicely with a DVC80 or DVX. The only drawback was the cable on the optional XLR adapter: it made things difficult to put the cam in a case with the cable plugged in. Other than that, the DVC30 was a camera which was discontinued a bit too soon.

If, however, there's the possibility of something being announced which is similar to the DVC30 - and in AVCCAM format - well.... I'd be all over it in a heartbeat to use as a B cam to the HMC150.
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Well... I was just crazy and had the hard case for it, too (HT30). It all stayed together all the time. I cut my 30 with a 100a all the time... and it went together very nicely. That being said,- now- time for a HD tapeless version!
 
Something like Canon HFS100, and I would get it.
I like everything about the Canon HF S100 except no native modes.
Give me native modes, and better color, and it could be a huge hit in the $1,000 market
 
[Mark Von Lanken
I can't reveal my source, but it is someone who is in the "know". I do not have any specs on the camera and they didn't ask me for any input. Can you believe that! :huh:

Same chips in a smaller body without XLR would be great. I really don't think it is going to be a really small single chip consumer camera because the price point should be around $1000 less than the HMC150.

They will release it at their press release on Sunday at NAB. Who will be there? ]

Mark ,

I will be there on Monday . I'm sure by then someone will report on it but I'll check out their booth and try to report something later in the day if possible.

Dave
 
D.R. Gates said:
Panasonic needs to stay out of the CMOS game.
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I will opt to kindly disagree with you. With regards to larger cameras with 1/3" chips you can still get away with 3-CCD's. Anything smaller than that and CCD's tend to not do so well for HD purposes. If you're going to use 3-1/4" chips they better well be CMOS. Sony did it for the FX7/V1U and Panasonic is already using it in the current SD100 and about to be release TM300.

Only Panasonic can prove me wrong if this new cam has 3 progressive 1/4" CCD's that perform well for HD. Something tells me they will try to stick with their "3MOS" array for smaller cams.
 
Green Hornet said:
Something like Canon HFS100, and I would get it.
I like everything about the Canon HF S100 except no native modes.
Give me native modes, and better color, and it could be a huge hit in the $1,000 market
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From what I've read so far, the Panasonic TM300 is giving the HFS100 everything and then some. I used to be a huge Canon fan, but I'd rather have the Panasonic. The results at CCI only help reinforce it. :thumbup:
 
I'd like it to be a beefed up SD9 cam. I have the SD9 and its a great little cam. If they increased its low light option and have a few more manual controls.. then I"m in.


I have matched some SD9 to the HMC very well.. if there's enough light. I simply love this little cam and who can beat the price and it uses batteries that will work on the 150, and a charger that works on 150 batteries as well. It's a great piece of equipment.


Panny keeps on rocking with kick arse cams. I think the 150 is a great cam and can't wait to see what's up.. and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, whatever it is, make it have some mac compatibility. This PC only business really sucks.
 
Brad_C said:
I will opt to kindly disagree with you.
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CMOS is probably the main reason I'm switching from being a lifelong Sony cam user. I don't need rolling shutter or other funky behaviors just to get great low-light capabilities.

In my mind, Sony went one step forward (low light) and two steps back (rolling shutter, jello-vision) with their CMOS offerings.
 
D.R. Gates said:
CMOS is probably the main reason I'm switching from being a lifelong Sony cam user. I don't need rolling shutter or other funky behaviors just to get great low-light capabilities.

In my mind, Sony went one step forward (low light) and two steps back (rolling shutter, jello-vision) with their CMOS offerings.
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I agree with the CMOS issues. It's one of the reasons I love my HMC150 so much. Beautiful images and with good ol CCD's. Trust me, I hope the Panasonic has stepped up and developed new smaller CCD's for smaller cams. I just think that if they've already invested so much time into their "3MOS" campaign, then that is the way they would probably go. I'm not trying to argue with anybody, it's just a hunch.

I actually hope that I end up being wrong! haha :thumbup:
 
I'd like to see a big brother to the hmc 150, 2/3" chips, 2 sd slots, interchangeable lens.
Panasonic released the hpx 500 after the 200, I'm hoping they will do something similar.
 
If they bring out a scaled down HMC with no XLRs and either the same sensors, or 1/4" CMOS with a similar low light performance to the HMC I will buy one for sure. I think a lot of people will to be honest. It has to be a lot cheaper than the HMC of course.

Has anybody tried the new consumer cams with the 1/4" chips by the way. I've got an SD100 which only has 1/6" 3MOS and it is poor compared to the HMC in low light.
 
I don't post to often as I don't do a lot of video work and am in the little leagues as compared to you all but after reading through this thread it has me really interested. I use my DVC-30 weekly for a production I do at my church for cable. It is a great came and also have done 10-15 weddings with it over the last 4 years.

If Panasonic comes out with a HD cam on par with that or as you all were saying a little less than the 150 would be a good stepping place for me!!

Thanks for the hopefully good upcoming news.

Jeff
 
i always thought that they should take the guts out of the HMC-70 and stick it in a dvc-30 chassis.

I got to play with a HMC-70 almost a year ago and was blown away by the picture when the light was right, but never considered it for the wedding work i do because of the lack of controls.

I'm sure other people felt the same way as i have never heard of anyone using an HMC70 for anything. I wouldn't be surprised if this new sub-hmc 150 camera is meant to address the HMC70's shortcomings

(BTW I'm waiting on the UPS man today as he is delivering my HMC150)

my $.02

John
 
john deaver said:
i always thought that they should take the guts out of the HMC-70 and stick it in a dvc-30 chassis.

I got to play with a HMC-70 almost a year ago and was blown away by the picture when the light was right, but never considered it for the wedding work i do because of the lack of controls.

I'm sure other people felt the same way as i have never heard of anyone using an HMC70 for anything. I wouldn't be surprised if this new sub-hmc 150 camera is meant to address the HMC70's shortcomings

(BTW I'm waiting on the UPS man today as he is delivering my HMC150)

my $.02

John
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I looked at that camera first and that's when I found the 150.
I agree that HMC70 is a little too sparse.
 
Bucknfl said:
I'd like to see a big brother to the hmc 150, 2/3" chips, 2 sd slots, interchangeable lens.
Panasonic released the hpx 500 after the 200, I'm hoping they will do something similar.
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I'd be happy with everything listed except the interchangeable lenses. God I love making wish lists..hehe. I read from someone else here that a panasonic rep hinted at a 2 sd slot update sometime in the future. Wish it was sooner than later!
 
I've not really seen a major need for a two slot SD card. Isn't 200 minutes long enough for a run time? and it takes two seconds to swap cards.. so it's not liek tape that takes 20 seconds or more, or P2 that only gives you a relatively short run time. When the 64 gig cards are out and cheaper, then you'll get 400 minutes.

The one advante I could see would be to shoot with smaller cards and hence the need too have two of them, but swap and back up so not all the ducks are in a row. Either way, that wouldn't be one of my big points of contention. I'd rather have something cheaper or giving us better final images..
 
I'm all about backup redundancy....coming from tapes. hehe

The HMC150 is pretty perfect as is though, except for nuisances like the focus ring sticking in cold weather. Being in the tropics, doesn't effect me though.
 
I just shot 400+ gigs of AVCHD footage in Barbados. At one point I thought that I was so lucky not to have to worry about tape changes. I shot 1080p and 16 gig cards were fine. I checked my shots as often as one can on a shoot. I like being able to split my shoot up into segments, and check my media. I didn't have a NEXTO with me on this shoot but will have one the next time. My 2 cents is that I think digital media is wonderful but it can fail. I don't want to gamble so for the most part I am sticking with 16 gig cards and the 2 second quick change that Justyn referred to.
BTW
The AG-HMC150 is a superb camera!
 
Hey camera is a very good thing because it capture anything anywhere so its a very helpful too. Here new camera is released at NAB, its great, i think its very well updated in comparison of old cameras..
 
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