Native Editing of Canon Footage in CS5

evanbutson

evanbutson

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Been playing with this for a while and it is SOOOO much nicer than working with converted or proxy files. You can just put a 7D or 5D MK II files straight in the timeline and press play. I have a few vidoes up on my site showing the workflow in Premiere Pro CS5 as well as a few of the other new features.

http://www.tdepost.com/videos/
 
evanbutson said:
Been playing with this for a while and it is SOOOO much nicer than working with converted or proxy files. You can just put a 7D or 5D MK II files straight in the timeline and press play. I have a few vidoes up on my site showing the workflow in Premiere Pro CS5 as well as a few of the other new features.

http://www.tdepost.com/videos/
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Thanks for the great CS5 demonstration videos Evan!
 
Not a prob. Also, if anyone has any questions I would be glad to answer them. Been cutting both my 7D and D300s footage for a few months now in CS5 and it is everything I had hoped for and more.
 
Downscaling 1080p, 60i 720 etc to SD was problematic and there was a link on dvxuser to a video that showed how to use "maximum render" setting that was hidden quite well in CS4
(as well as the appropriate settings to get a decent "non blurry" sd output.) Sorry, I don't have the link on this computer.
I know not too many use SD anymore, but I do for 90% of the local stuff I do.
I've never really had a "real good" downscale from HD to SD. :-(
Also can you burn to an "AVCHD" disk in Encore now. (I'd like to put some short HD stuff on a regular DVD an watch it on Bluray player.) That cheapo Studio 14 software lets me put 1920 x 1080 on a regular DVD.......
 
Nice demo. But, I think I like the new GrassValley Edius 5.5 better. I just tried the demo, and loaded up 3 streams of native 5D files in 1920X1080, playing realtime at FULL rez. On a cheap i7 920 I built. Also, just have a lower end 9800GT video card. Amazing.

I always liked Premiere. Was the first editing software I used. But, got doggy later. Now, it looks like they're getting it together, but I'm hooked on Edius with the fast realtime. Really, really fast.

JohnnyD
 
Agreed, Edius does have some nice RT playback (heck I still own a DV Storm, not that I use it) my problem with Edius is how SLOW they are to do add simple things like keyframes to all the effects access to bezier curves etc. Also, I think where Prem really shines is when you look at it with the Dynamic Link to After Effects and Encore. Being able to edit in Prem, then send a few clips to After Effects and have them still in the timeline in Prem and any changes you do in After Effects update immediately in Prem, then send that timeline to Encore (without rendering) and begin authoring, then if you make a change to say a colour grade in AFX, it updates in Prem and then Encore in realtime. That yu cant do with Encore, or FCP for that matter.
 
thegoldfi said:
ugh... i bought CS4 a week before CS5 was announced.
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I wouldnt worry, you should still be covered by the grandfather clause. When CS5 is launched, just call up Adobe's store and as long as you have proof of purchase you should be right, they tend to be a bit flexible in terms of cut off dates unlike some other companies I wont mention :)
 
dufloorman said:
lol! I've had mine for about six months. Maybe Evan can tell us if we can upgrade the CS4 for editing native Canon DSLR files.
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ha :) Yeah I think you might have missed the boat with the 6 months purchase :)

Unfortunately the Mercury Playback Engine (the thing that does all the goody new features in CS5) wont work with CS4 (its a 64 bit thing)

That being said the upgrade prices arnt toooo painful :)
 
I'll be switching from FCP to PP CS5 soon. I'm really tired of Apple's lack of development on their flagship NLE software. Adobe keeps improving and releases an upgrade about once a year, while Apple seems to be content to rest on its laurels.
 
ydgmdlu said:
I'll be switching from FCP to PP CS5 soon. I'm really tired of Apple's lack of development on their flagship NLE software. Adobe keeps improving and releases an upgrade about once a year, while Apple seems to be content to rest on its laurels.
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The nice thing is in CS5 you can import a Final Cut XML file of your edit and even export out an XML of your edit from Prem to go back to Final Cut Pro.

Video of the process here http://www.tdepost.com/videos/2010/4/13/premiere-pro-cs5-final-cut-pro-roundtrip.html
 
evanbutson said:
I wouldnt worry, you should still be covered by the grandfather clause. When CS5 is launched, just call up Adobe's store and as long as you have proof of purchase you should be right, they tend to be a bit flexible in terms of cut off dates unlike some other companies I wont mention :)
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is this for real? if only i could find my receipt...
 
You will be impressed! I saw a demo of CS5 at NAB on Monday. All the Canon DSLR footage plays in realtime with effects!!!

The fanboys should start worrying.
 
PP has mind-washed me; I hated it at first, now I wouldn't dream of using anything else.

Made by people who actually edit for a living.

Avoided CS4, but 5 is proving promising.

You can use PP3, but you need to render - and depending on your computer - that can take a while.

john
 
thegoldfi said:
is this for real? if only i could find my receipt...
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If you have any problems when it ships, drop me a PM and I will get you in touch with who you need to speak to. Believe it or not, at Adobe bootcamp (where all us Ambassadors were run through the messaging for CS5) there was quite a bit of discussion about upgrades. Adobe a VERY keen to make sure that people dont feel they are being nickeled and dimed, they do realise that the cost of CS suites is not small too a lot of people and they really want people to feel they get value for money each and every upgrade.
 
rejdmast said:
You will be impressed! I saw a demo of CS5 at NAB on Monday. All the Canon DSLR footage plays in realtime with effects!!!

The fanboys should start worrying.
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Ha :) Think og it this way, even if you run FCP or AVID or whatever, your gonna need Photoshop, your gonna need After Effects, the cost of those two pckages seperate is very close to the cost of Production Premium. Adobe are well aware that there are a lot of 'closet' Premiere Pro users out there. They wont admit it, but they find themselves turning to Premiere and Adobe Media Encoder more and more to get them out of the binds other packages are putting them in. Hey, in my day job I generally have to cut in FCP, but that doesnt stop me using Prem when I can ;)
 
evanbutson said:
Been playing with this for a while and it is SOOOO much nicer than working with converted or proxy files. You can just put a 7D or 5D MK II files straight in the timeline and press play. I have a few vidoes up on my site showing the workflow in Premiere Pro CS5 as well as a few of the other new features.

http://www.tdepost.com/videos/
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I run Vista (32 bit).
1) Is it going to play native files on my system too?
2) Is the same technology also in Premiere Elements (which is within my budget...)
 
Does CS5 recognize the proper white and black levels of 5D and 7D footage or is that something you would still benefit from using cineform to convert your footage first?

If I edit in the native MOV format will I be limited to the 4:2:0 color space or can I edit in the MOV format and apply my color correction and then export in an 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 format so that my colors don't break up as much?
 
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