NanoFlash, Ninja or the AJA Ki Pro MINI?

opinions on star wars 2 artistic value aside, it still looks good compared to any DSLR's visually speaking and I doubt gh1, canon 5d, or whatever can do a better image
 
well, i do know that you are a moderator and i do respect the fact that you have about 40,000 posts on this forum and that you are providing people with valuable information. and the fact that i might soon be banned from this forum.

with that said, i don't think i said anything that was not true.

and i'm not attacking the camera, in fact i was looking forward to all the s35 or thereabout size sensors in camcorder form factor.

'i think the next paragraph would be the one to ban me, if you were looking for an excuse.'

but it seems to a lot of members and not myself alone that you are trying too hard to make this camera into something it isn't and in the same time diminishing the dslrs to make this camera look better. in desperate attempt you continuously stated that members of these forums don't know what they were talking about including the guy that made the gh1 hack, and portraying the 'all new improved' 24mbps avchd as something flawless that could not have been any better to the guy that just made the gh1 hack, continuously portraying the camcorder like form factor like it was a broadcast shoulder mount like camera where in reality it's just an awkward consumer camcorder like body(and not even a consumer camcorder from this decade). stating a definite dynamic range number to the 5d and then stating that you did not test it but never the less concluding that the 'all new improved' camera is x many stops better. did i mention some of the feature that you are stating include "live monitoring" as if the dslrs did not have either a monitor or a connection to connect a monitor. and a headphone jack?.

you kept going miles off the truth twisting facts and insulting members of this forum trying to defend this camera. saying we don't know what we are talking about because we did not use this camera. i can assure you some of the members on this forum have much higher iq than others. i don't need to touch fire to know that it will burn me if i do. and i don't need to test a camera to deduct it's merits.

and like someone asked you a very specific question about the price difference in relation to the image quality and if it was worth it. i will ask you the same.
 
constantly stating that the 4/3 sensor is similar or close to s35 size sensor really pissed me off by the way
 
Amr:

With all due respect, it getting tiresome.

You might want to rethink participating further in this thread and others relating to the AF100.

I have indicated as much in another thread where your posts are uniformally negative.

Stay with the cam the works for you.

Thanks for understanding.

best
 
:laugh: this camera is the best thing since sliced bread, trying to be joyful and positive.

brain wash complete.
 
Amr Rahmy said:
with that said, i don't think i said anything that was not true.
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And that's fine. But you're dragging it into other threads, as if it's some sort of vendetta for you.

State your opinion, and leave it at that. Notice which thread this is? This is the Nano/Ninja/Ki Pro thread, but you had to drag in "the AF100 is just a GH1" stuff in here. Why?

but it seems to a lot of members and not myself alone that you are trying too hard to make this camera into something it isn't and in the same time diminishing the dslrs to make this camera look better.
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Really? Because it seems to me that that's exactly what you're doing. Trying too hard to turn the AF100 into something it isn't (a glorified DSLR) in a "desperate attempt" to make the DSLRs look better.

Funny.

in desperate attempt you continuously stated that members of these forums don't know what they were talking about including the guy that made the gh1 hack
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No, I said they hadn't used both, and I had. So do you really think someone who has never seen a certain product and never used it, has a better idea of what the truth is, than someone who has? Repeatedly I've asked folks to hold their condemnation until they've at least seen and/or used the product they're in such a rush to discredit.

, and portraying the 'all new improved' 24mbps avchd as something flawless that could not have been any better to the guy that just made the gh1 hack
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Do you think you might be misrepresenting my opinion, just a little bit?

I've said that the 24mbps AVCHD is superior to the hacked GH1 codec. I only said it because it's a fact, and I sincerely doubt even Vitaliy would disagree with me on that.

, continuously portraying the camcorder like form factor like it was a broadcast shoulder mount like camera
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Continuously? Can you even point to one example where I've ever implied anything like that?

stating a definite dynamic range number to the 5d and then stating that you did not test it but never the less concluding that the 'all new improved' camera is x many stops better.
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I pointed to Art Adams' definiteve dynamic range test for the 5D. Do you have a problem with Art's testing methodology?

And I said that the "all new improved" camera is 2 stops better than the GH1, because I did the testing on both the GH1 and the AF100.

did i mention some of the feature that you are stating include "live monitoring" as if the dslrs did not have either a monitor or a connection to connect a monitor.
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You cannot monitor a GH1 when it's recording. Or are you disputing that?

and a headphone jack?.
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Niether the GH1 nor the Canon DSLRs have headphone jacks. What is your problem with me saying that they don't have headphone jacks?

you kept going miles off the truth twisting facts
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I have never gone one iota off the truth nor have I twisted any facts. Your rant here is rather a complete twisting of everything I've said.

and i don't need to test a camera to deduct it's merits.
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Okay, well, if you're able to somehow psychically divine something's merits, then bully for you. But you're still not allowed to go trolling around here, that's one of the basic rules of this place.

and like someone asked you a very specific question about the price difference in relation to the image quality and if it was worth it. i will ask you the same.
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I answered that question definitively.
 
Amr Rahmy said:
constantly stating that the 4/3 sensor is similar or close to s35 size sensor really pissed me off by the way
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Then I have little sympathy for you, because I have NEVER said it was the same size as S35. I've said it's very close to REGULAR 35, and it is. 22x12 vs. 19x10, those are very similar.

S35 is bigger. And I have never compared the AF100 to the S35 sensor.

So if you're letting your own misunderstanding and misinterpretation of my words "really piss you off" then I think you might indeed want to take a break from the site and get yourself a reality check.

If you're going to argue what I'm saying, at least be sure that you're arguing what I <actually said>. I think if you go and re-read it, you might be surprised, and that you were reading a lot into it that simply isn't there.
 
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Barry, I am really looking forward to that list. I sense a sticky coming on. I think people sometimes forget what an EX-3 goes for.
 
i was not going to type anything, but since you insist on quoting and dissecting things

i wont copy/paste your quotes if that's what you want.

yes, you definitely stated numerous times the size difference between the gh1 and the 7d is negligible and close to 35mm what ever form or size that may be, including today.

7d or t2i fov is not in no way shape or form really close to 4/3. it's like a difference between a sea and an ocean they are both big, but not really close to each other.
 
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yes, you definitely stated numerous times the size difference between the gh1 and the 7d is negligible and close to 35mm what ever form or size that may be, including today.
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The 7D/t2i are not S35-sized. They're 35mm sized. And yes, of course I said the GH1 is close to the 7D/t2i/cinema size, because it is. The 7D/t2i sensor is 22mm wide, and the GH1 is 19mm wide. Where I come from, that difference is minor, not "huge".

7d or t2i fov is not in no way shape or form really close to 4/3. it's like a difference between a sea and an ocean they are both big, but not really close to each other.
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That's silly. The difference between them is a Cinema Crop Factor of 1.18. Use a 100mm lens on a T2i, and you'll get the same FOV from an 85mm lens on the GH1. If that amounts to an ocean of difference for you, then obviously we can't agree. I think it's a minor difference. It's there, and it does make a differnece, but it's a minor concern.

The difference between them is a crop factor of 1.18. It's there, yes. There is a difference, yes. But it is nowhere near as big as some folks seem to think, and if it makes that big of a difference to you, why, feel free to go for a different product.
 
i don't think i said anything other than twisting the facts, dissecting and taking text out of context is a form of twisting the facts. i apologies if you took that as an accusation, i'm not accusing you, just stating the facts.

going by your math, you think going from one lens to the next in the set is a negligible difference.

that's would be like saying 1/2" and 2/3" are really only a few millimeter difference that they are close enough, or 1/2" to 1/3"
 
This thread is directed to using external capture devices with the AF100, not issues relating to lenses.

Please stay on topic with the thread.
 
back on topic, anybody other than me has an eyebrow raised for the touchscreen? It's look to be be using consumer grade touchscreen, same stuff you find on your phone. I'm warry about using such a device in the extreme cold or even heat. If it's pressure maybe not so bad, but they can get annoying really fast, if it's capacitive, you're not getting any response when your fingers are like ice...
 
this reminds me of the firestore days. Great idea but it took a long time to mature. Don't get seduced by the Ninjas price. I would go with the other proven devices before the Ninja. People complain about the SD cards being flakey and then would settle on an unknown company using notebook drives? Hmmmm, time will tell. I really hope it does prove itself right out of the gate!

Bob
 
I think I'll hobble along on the AF100's standard SDHC dual card slots, then pick up the AJA device summer or fall of 2011.
 
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The 7D/t2i are not S35-sized. They're 35mm sized. And yes, of course I said the GH1 is close to the 7D/t2i/cinema size, because it is. The 7D/t2i sensor is 22mm wide, and the GH1 is 19mm wide. Where I come from, that difference is minor, not "huge".


That's silly. The difference between them is a Cinema Crop Factor of 1.18.
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Where are you getting your sensor dimensions? Most specs I've seen put Canon APS-C at 22.3mm wide and Micro 4/3rds at 17.3mm (imaging area). This would give the AF100 about a 1.44 crop factor compared to Super 35 imaging area. Where Canon 7D or Red 4k would be about a 1.12 crop factor compared to Super 35. Do you have some other information about the GH1 sensor? 19mm seems too wide for micro 4/3rds.
 
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