NanoFlash, Ninja or the AJA Ki Pro MINI?

GRENCH

GRENCH

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NanoFlash, Ninja or the AJA Ki Pro MINI

So which would be your choice to go with the AF-100? They all seem to do pretty much the same thing.

I like the Ki Pro MINI myself. But the price of the ninja is pretty tempting. I just don't like the idea of a hard drive.
 
GRENCH said:
NanoFlash, Ninja or the AJA Ki Pro MINI

So which would be your choice to go with the AF-100? They all seem to do pretty much the same thing.

I like the Ki Pro MINI myself. But the price of the ninja is pretty tempting. I just don't like the idea of a hard drive.
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Well you can use an SSD. I know I will if I go with the Ninja. Hard to decide between that and and AJA. I'm hoping one of them will miraculously figure out how to record VFRs in 1080p out of the AF-100.
 
I just checked out an article on the Cinedeck Extreme. It sounds pretty sweet other than the over heating issues. It also doubles as a monitor as ......Hold up....Wait a minute!

Priced at nearly $10,000.00. No thanks. I'm good with my 1st selections :banned:

http://www.dv.com/article/95460
 
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GRENCH said:
They all seem to do pretty much the same thing.
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Pretty much. The nano records to XDcam codec to CF via HD-SDI

The ninja is records prores via HDMI to a 2.5" HDD. And offers touchscreen.

The ki pro mini records prores to CF via HD-SDI or HDMI. Has additional two balanced XLR ins for audio.

Anything I missed?
 
One consideration for me between the Ninja and Ki Pro Mini is to look into what the limitations are on HDMI cable runs and limits on a BNC for an HD-SDI run. Could I go 50' with either? 100'?

Although now I see that the ninja doesn't have a video out, so I'm likely to go with the Ki Pro Mini given that the my ideal set-up would be to monitor what's being recorded on a large screen, with the unit as part of video village.
 
Zak Forsman said:
One consideration for me between the Ninja and Ki Pro Mini is to look into what the limitations are on HDMI cable runs and limits on a BNC for an HD-SDI run. Could I go 50' with either? 100'?

Although now I see that the ninja doesn't have a video out, so I'm likely to go with the Ki Pro Mini given that the my ideal set-up would be to monitor what's being recorded on a large screen, with the unit as part of video village.
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Af100 can output through the hd-sdi and hdmi at the same time. If your monitor can handle that, the ninja is still an option.
 
the ki pro mini seams really rugged and more built to purpose, to be attached to the camera. both hdmi and hd-sdi, in and out, and ltc, and from what it seams you can actually add the ability to control the ki pro from a distance (not sure if the control would mean anything the buttons can do or include record or not, but definitely something worth looking into. if the web server control has record/stop functionality, you can make the device wireless).

and the separate xlr input.

and you probably don't want a touch screen on something mounted on the camera where you might press something by accident. and having keys that you can actually feel is much better than a touch screen when your filming on location and you need to look at a monitor or the talent.
 
I use the nano a lot and I would go with the Ki mini. I definitely can vouch for the quality of AJA products. (Kona user)

Love the nano but if you actually have a true 10-bit SDI output from your camera, this is the most affordable/practical way to record 10-bit video.

Incidentally, the nano can record via HDMI too.

Let's hope the AF100 outputs true 10-bit via SDI.
 
I still haven't purchased any of them since I am also trying to decide. Does the fact that Ninja and AJA both record in Apple ProRes codec make it obsolete for PC based workflows.

Just like our friend ATL Media Group, I also use Edius and CS5... On PC. Does this mean that the Nano is still the only otion I have? You see... There's a huge difference between 2500 Euros and 800 euros.:undecided
 
Come on, the codec is an obvious product differentiator, and true 10 bit acquisition with their higher priced lineup is one of the selling points.

I wouldn't hold your breath...
 
so the price difference is for?

a repackaged gh1 that looks like a camcorder?

xlr input?

the hd-sdi was the selling point. without it, what do you get for paying that much more than a gh1?
 
well there's nothing to stop people from using ki pro's on their avc intra cameras, but keep in mind Intra is mac/pc, all NLE compatible.

pro res doesn't fit the bill under every category, though it does for a lot. but you lose PC support, and older version of avid don't support pro res/quicktime natively. thus is still makes more sense to record to p2 (a professional recording standard opposed to CF, a consumer recording standard) which may be great for us, but a no no for broadcast networks, where they use Panny's ENG line. Not to mention 2/3 will always has its place, including the points of, having a in focus shot is MORE important, and the style/build of the camera is well respected.

If anything, it will accompany the bigger cameras as a secondary or third camera very nicely, and offer up 10 bit to coincide. It's not a big stretch, it's just whether or not Panny is generous enough. A lot of the targeted demographic has no interest in getting a hpx 3700, or even a hpx 370. They crave larger sensor, high quality acquisition.

IMHO, 8 bit needs to DIE, 10 bit needs to be the new 8 bit, 12 bit and 16 bit recording are the new, 10/12. once 16 bit trickles down to the indie level it's gonna be amazing.
 
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