NAB 2017 rumors?

puredrifting said:
Ughh, Las Vegas, one of my least favorite places on earth, combined a 100K plus other video nerds. No wonder I have not gone in about a decade.
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And Vegas 'ain't cheap no more'.

But the biggest thing holding me back, I don't wanna have to deal with flying out there. It's honestly that simple. If I could drive to NAB in five hours, I wouldn't even think twice about it, but I hate flying and the airports so much now, I'd rather stay home. One of the guys that I workout with is in Vegas right now for a wedding and before he left he said the biggest thing that is gonna suck about the trip, flying out there. Everyone hates flying, now.
 
Run&Gun said:
If I could drive to NAB in five hours, I wouldn't even think twice about it
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One of the benefits of starting from LA! Not exactly a thriling drive, but you do get to stop in Baker for a date shake at the Mad Greek and "marvel" at the World's Tallest Thermometer. Ha.

I'm heading there this year for my first time since 2014. I've got a number of meetings with vendors lined up, plus I'm speaking at the Panasonic booth on low-light shooting for Varicam (Tues, 3 pm). If you come to that and are a dvxuser, come say hi afterwards! While I'm not expecting to see anything groundbreaking (really glad the term "gamechanger" isn't being overused like it was a few years back), I'm sure there will be a few smaller surprises.

My first NAB was '99 and my main reason for going was to meet with the folks from a company called Media 100. I'm sure there are a handful of people here who may remember that name, it was a non-linear edit system that was making headway as a lower cost alternative to Avid--meaning it started around $20K for the hardware/software package, and went up depending on resolution level (as I recall). I used to cut my reels on one in Boston in the 90's at a friend's facility, and after moving to LA I was missing having that convenience. My plan was to buy a setup, use it for my own reels and then rent it out the rest of the time to pay it off. So off I went to NAB to work out my configuration hands-on with one of their reps. When the show opened, Apple lifted the curtain on a new product called Final Cut Pro, a software-only NLE that basically did everything Media 100 did...for $1000. Talk about timing. Sometimes I shudder to think if I hadn't waited for NAB and bought the Media 100 months before, I really would have been stuck holding the bag. The company was gone within a few years.

Personally, I think the more fun show is Cinegear. Pretty much all of the pro-level gear for the film industry is represented, it's a more manageable size, you are rubbing elbows with the top peeps in the business. I may be biased but I think LA is a more interesting place to visit than Vegas.
 
Run&Gun said:
And Vegas 'ain't cheap no more'.

But the biggest thing holding me back, I don't wanna have to deal with flying out there. It's honestly that simple. If I could drive to NAB in five hours, I wouldn't even think twice about it, but I hate flying and the airports so much now, I'd rather stay home. One of the guys that I workout with is in Vegas right now for a wedding and before he left he said the biggest thing that is gonna suck about the trip, flying out there. Everyone hates flying, now.
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Man I hear that...
 
CharlesPapert said:
One of the benefits of starting from LA! Not exactly a thriling drive, but you do get to stop in Baker for a date shake at the Mad Greek and "marvel" at the World's Tallest Thermometer. Ha.

I'm heading there this year for my first time since 2014. I've got a number of meetings with vendors lined up, plus I'm speaking at the Panasonic booth on low-light shooting for Varicam (Tues, 3 pm). If you come to that and are a dvxuser, come say hi afterwards! While I'm not expecting to see anything groundbreaking (really glad the term "gamechanger" isn't being overused like it was a few years back), I'm sure there will be a few smaller surprises.

My first NAB was '99 and my main reason for going was to meet with the folks from a company called Media 100. I'm sure there are a handful of people here who may remember that name, it was a non-linear edit system that was making headway as a lower cost alternative to Avid--meaning it started around $20K for the hardware/software package, and went up depending on resolution level (as I recall). I used to cut my reels on one in Boston in the 90's at a friend's facility, and after moving to LA I was missing having that convenience. My plan was to buy a setup, use it for my own reels and then rent it out the rest of the time to pay it off. So off I went to NAB to work out my configuration hands-on with one of their reps. When the show opened, Apple lifted the curtain on a new product called Final Cut Pro, a software-only NLE that basically did everything Media 100 did...for $1000. Talk about timing. Sometimes I shudder to think if I hadn't waited for NAB and bought the Media 100 months before, I really would have been stuck holding the bag. The company was gone within a few years.

Personally, I think the more fun show is Cinegear. Pretty much all of the pro-level gear for the film industry is represented, it's a more manageable size, you are rubbing elbows with the top peeps in the business. I may be biased but I think LA is a more interesting place to visit than Vegas.
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'14 was my last one, as well. Got to see the V35 debut. And I believe my first one was 2000(maybe 2001). I was in-town shooting the NHRA the weekend leading in and just flew back home on the red-eye that Monday night instead of going out Sunday night or Monday morning. My suitcase must have weighed 25 lbs extra because of all the brochures. At the last one, I still took a few, and one of my friends looked at me like I was crazy.

Cinegear sounds fun and more "focused". Call me crazy, but I'm not really a "Vegas guy". I have friends that still revere it like they were 20. I don't gamble, I don't get stupid-drunk and I hate smoking. I always forget you can smoke in Vegas until I'm there, since almost everywhere else in the country has pushed it out, even here in NC. Lol.

It's funny you mention Media 100. I saw this a few days ago:
https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/4484-remembering-media-100-one-of-the-great-nle-pioneers
 
I'll take you back further. My first NAB was to show Lucasfilm's EditDroid. We were leasing them to filmmakers. Then Avid came out
and it was goodby to Editdroid.
 
Paul F said:
I'll take you back further. My first NAB was to show Lucasfilm's EditDroid. We were leasing them to filmmakers. Then Avid came out
and it was goodby to Editdroid.
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I never saw EditDroid. But I did go to a "New Media" Symposium in Beverly Hills, at the Beverly Hills Hotel to check out this "new editing computer", it was the Gen 1 AVID, the video was the size of a postage stamp and we were all suitably impressed and knew that this would eventually be the future. We were shooting Beta SP at the time and editing with two Beta SP decks and D2 deck. And a Grass Valley Switcher and an Abakus DVE unit. Ahh, the memories. No more making b-rolls. B-roll used to mean something entirely different, but related in the days of editing on flatbeds, then with tape machines.
 
Anyone remember D/Vision Pro? It was an early NLE that was physically setup like a Steenbeck, including that familiar crescent-shaped shuttle control. I shot a Super-16 feature in 1994 or 95 that was edited on the system and was asked to speak at their NAB booth that year. I think that's when NAB was still spread out over a few hotel conference spaces and ballrooms rather than at the convention center. I have been going to NAB for a very long time, and that's part of why I hate Vegas so much. The place is basically everything wrong with America shoved together, stuffed with chili peppers & breast implants, coated in plastic and broiled at 112 degrees each day. Last year after CineGear I drove out to Vegas again for InfoComm, where it was 114 degrees each day. That was a fun load-in.

I really enjoy NAB. It's a great show. I just hate Las Vegas. That's why IBC is so great -- it's a great big show but it's in Amsterdam. Sweet!
 
I don't like Vegas and I don't like NAB. It will be my third one, working for a major vendor as a freelancer or "stringer". Hopefully my last one. It can be pretty awful having to stand all day and talking non stop to a whole bunch of camera and technology folks with widely varying levels of knowledge and expertise. I'm considered to be very technical, but my heart is with cinematography and story telling. Sometimes you get argumentative boobs, sometimes you meet someone who knows more than you (that's a good thing). I am anonymous here obviously, so I can be honest about the experience of actually working at NAB and LV.
 
Ha, sure. I've worked many trade shows over the years, including a couple of NAB's, and yes it is exhausting fielding questions all day. And I used to do it with a Steadicam on!! These days I think I feel even worse for the gimbal guys that don't use bodymounts...
 
Went to 3 of those years ago. And yes..the novelty of Vegas sure did wear off. With so much coverage before during and after...I just don't feel the desire to go.
 
Sony will replace the stolen units.

And, Panasonic has come out with a 4K point and shoot for $449 (shipping this summer) and the 8-18mm F 2.8/F4 MFT lens (for the GH series, where it's 16-36mm with a 2X crop)
 
The best part of "Sony will replace the stolen units" is that it sounds like whatever they're presenting is not a one-of-a-kind prototype, but something that's probably being mass produced right now.
 
Samuel H said:
The best part of "Sony will replace the stolen units" is that it sounds like whatever they're presenting is not a one-of-a-kind prototype, but something that's probably being mass produced right now.
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That's an awfully big truck for an A7S.
 
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