My Canon Rebel T2i experience
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GoodLuck
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At any rate, thanks for the detailed info! Good luck with betrayalfest.
Hey no problem, glad to help! And thanks, it's been a lot of fun participating and hearing feedback.
GoodLuck
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I don't know, could be. But I searched the web when I had the problem and found others on some really high quality computers with the same problem. Mine is an AMD Phenon Quad Core, I believe 2.2ghz with 6gigs of ram. What's yours?
Mine's an 3ghz Intel Q6600 with 4GBs ram running Vista32. ZoomBrowser EX plays and edits smooth as anyone would want on this rig. Your AMD should handle 1080p30 without breaking a sweat. There's either a codec conflict or setting that's not right. Quicktime has a pretty bad rep on PCs..maybe that's your problem?
singleframe
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wow thanks for the thread! great info...i'm waiting till they are available online again -- all seem to be sold out everywhere.
damm..Nikon needs to get back into the game...they are so behind in this DSLR arena.
damm..Nikon needs to get back into the game...they are so behind in this DSLR arena.
Barry_Green
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This is all correct. However, the file size limitation of FAT32 does not have to translate into being a recording time limitation -- AVCHD and P2 both use FAT32 and both provide for unlimited recording times, because both systems were designed from the ground up to support file chaining to the next or previous clip.I don't know. Maybe Barry Green knows? But from my understanding FAT32 is used because it's a dual loading format that will load on apple or windows. Versus NTFS which has longer/larger storage space but can only be read by apple pc's but not written to by most apple pcs. So it's more of a universal type standard thing. FAT32 is considered the universal format Apple/Windows. A lot of USB drives are Fat32 but since they are hard drives can be converted to NTFS. So I think it's definitely possible, making it happen, I don't know!
The Canons don't, and we don't know exactly why; either they just didn't bother to implement it, or perhaps the Quicktime file format they use doesn't support chaining. In any case, don't expect it to change, because the Canons can also have issues with overheating and a forced file shutoff at 12 minutes helps prevent that situation too.
GoodLuck
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One of the biggest downsides I've found so far is the limited availibilty of lenses on Canon cameras. A lot of place don't carry them or seem to always be out of stock.
I've been looking for a canon EF 50mm 1.8 lens. Wolf Camera/Ritz Camera stopped carrying all Canon products for the last 7 months and are in talks to get them back. My local Arlington Camera has had them on backorder for over 3 weeks now. I search used on craigslist and it's mostly old FD lenses.
If you search for old used lenses, it's hard to find a good EF version. Most are old FD versions. From doing research, the EF version is the one you need because it has the electrical contacts that allow the lens to be adjusted by a digital camera. So if you get an FD lens it could work but you'll likely have problems.
I saw someone else using a nikon with an adapter ring on their t2i on vimeo. I considered doing that since I have a nikon 50mm lens. I called my local camera shop and they said they don't sell canon/adapter rings because you can't focus to infinity. They basically will have problems with it because Nikon doesn't use the electrical contacts to adjust the lens. So you really shouldn't use any Nikon lens on a canon digital camera mount.
I've always used Nikon lenses when it came to redrock/brevis/etc. primarily because I've always heard they are better lenses. But that is another reason why it's a better way to go if you are deciding which mount to use on your redrock/brevis. You could use an old Nikon or a newer one and it all pretty much works but not with Canon and their digital line of EF lenses.
I know you can just order it online, but it's nice to think that there is somewhere around you where you could just pick it up.
I've been looking for a canon EF 50mm 1.8 lens. Wolf Camera/Ritz Camera stopped carrying all Canon products for the last 7 months and are in talks to get them back. My local Arlington Camera has had them on backorder for over 3 weeks now. I search used on craigslist and it's mostly old FD lenses.
If you search for old used lenses, it's hard to find a good EF version. Most are old FD versions. From doing research, the EF version is the one you need because it has the electrical contacts that allow the lens to be adjusted by a digital camera. So if you get an FD lens it could work but you'll likely have problems.
I saw someone else using a nikon with an adapter ring on their t2i on vimeo. I considered doing that since I have a nikon 50mm lens. I called my local camera shop and they said they don't sell canon/adapter rings because you can't focus to infinity. They basically will have problems with it because Nikon doesn't use the electrical contacts to adjust the lens. So you really shouldn't use any Nikon lens on a canon digital camera mount.
I've always used Nikon lenses when it came to redrock/brevis/etc. primarily because I've always heard they are better lenses. But that is another reason why it's a better way to go if you are deciding which mount to use on your redrock/brevis. You could use an old Nikon or a newer one and it all pretty much works but not with Canon and their digital line of EF lenses.
I know you can just order it online, but it's nice to think that there is somewhere around you where you could just pick it up.
Chris Watson
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Hey GoodLuck,
I think we're in the same area. I'm in Ft. Worth and have had good luck with Fort Worth Camera. They even had the 50mm 1.8 in stock..
Also, you're wrong about the limited number of lens you can adapt to the camera. In addition to Nikon, you can also adapt Pentax K Mount, Olympus O Mount, Contax/Yashica c/y mount, and M42 Screwmount to name a few. Fotodiox makes adapters for all these.
You want to make sure to get the manual lenses as they'll give you aperture control right on the lens itself. Very handy and very fast. Anyway, I hope this helps!
Chris W
I think we're in the same area. I'm in Ft. Worth and have had good luck with Fort Worth Camera. They even had the 50mm 1.8 in stock..
Also, you're wrong about the limited number of lens you can adapt to the camera. In addition to Nikon, you can also adapt Pentax K Mount, Olympus O Mount, Contax/Yashica c/y mount, and M42 Screwmount to name a few. Fotodiox makes adapters for all these.
You want to make sure to get the manual lenses as they'll give you aperture control right on the lens itself. Very handy and very fast. Anyway, I hope this helps!
Chris W
GoodLuck
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Hey Thanks Chris for the info. I need to swing by and check that place out. I figured if they didn't have canon in stock at the places I checked, they probably aren't going to have any of the others, usually they'll tell me if they do. I'll look into that and see.
The best "on the cheap" tripod you can get in my opinion is the Velbon DV-7000
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I use a Velbon 607F that I picked up on eBay for $40. It has the same head (PH-368) as the DV-7000 but the sticks are titanium colored instead of black. B&H has them new for $64.99:
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Thanks y'all. I'm gonna go with the Velbon 607F!
By the way, is it a 58mm, 55mm, or 52mm UV Filter that I'd need for the stock lens?
And, anyone have experience with the Joba Gorillapod SLR-Zoom? Trying to find a solution for hanging the camera from overhead to take pictures of what's directly below. Thoughts?
Much appreciated!
By the way, is it a 58mm, 55mm, or 52mm UV Filter that I'd need for the stock lens?
And, anyone have experience with the Joba Gorillapod SLR-Zoom? Trying to find a solution for hanging the camera from overhead to take pictures of what's directly below. Thoughts?
Much appreciated!
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You should look into Canons Backpack. It's cheap and well built. I just picked one of these up and love it. I will NEVER use a camera bag again.
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Deluxe-Backpack-200EG-Cameras/dp/B00009R6TA
http://www.pcconnectionexpress.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=422689&SourceID=k232270
I have that same back pack and it is really nice, but also has it's downsides. It actually is a couple inches to small for my setup. You CANNOT even fit a 15.4 inch laptop in there, which is my problem.
I'm actually going to buy a slightly bigger backpack because of this.
GoodLuck
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I went out and shot some footage at the Dallas World Aquarium...
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=203692
Final thoughts on the T2i
I remember around two years ago I was considering getting a good DSLR camera. I was checking out the Nikon's. They shot at around 12mp and at 3 frames continuous and were around $1400. I always put off buying one.
A few years before that when I was shooting on the DVX, I kept thinking about making a shift to shooting on HD. The HV20 came out and I thought it was a cheap way to make a switch. I could sell my DVX and get an HV20 for around $900.
When I had my DVX, I kept thinking how great it would be to own an adapter. I kept thinking, if I only had an adapter it would probably look better. I looked at the redrock, brevis, letus, and was seriously considering them all.
About a year ago I bought an HVX200. I was gearing up to test out my new PC and editing HD and in the end we went with the DPs EX1 which shoots 1080p. Being new the HD, I didn't really look into a whole lot, just knew the HVX shot HD and it looks great. I also had a brevis adapter but noticed it was really hard to shoot unless I had a lot of light. We shot a feature with a Redrock around two years ago, it's sort of common sense but it reminds you of the challenges you face using it when you turn it on and can barely see anything in a room with the lights on. I ended up selling it all off, primarily because I realized everything is going 1080p. Blu-Ray movies are 1080p, my monitor is 1080p, if you shoot HD, 1080p is where it's at and the HVX I had shot 720p. So I then started thinking about getting an EX1.
So here we are a few years later. I got my adapter. I got my 18mp slr camera. I got my 1080p HD video camera. All in one. What a breakthrough in technology. I'm personally surprised the thing doesn't get more hype because the HV20 got a lot of hype and it didn't shoot 1080p, it didn't have interchangable lenses, it didn't even have manual controls from what I recall. This thing is incredible. And to think I was going to pay $1400 for a 12mp camera 2 years ago and here I am with an 18mp camera for nearly half the price that does more. It even shoots a little faster at 3.7 continuous frames per second.
Just an incredible piece of gear all around to own. Worth the price for the photos alone. Worth the price for the HD alone. Worth the price for the adapter feature, it's just really where it's at for indie filmmakers looking for a cheap alternative to get out there and shoot a few things. Although on something like a feature, you have to start thinking more practical and using an HD camera would be a bit easier because of syncing up audio. But if you can get use to it, I think great things can be done with it.
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=203692
Final thoughts on the T2i
I remember around two years ago I was considering getting a good DSLR camera. I was checking out the Nikon's. They shot at around 12mp and at 3 frames continuous and were around $1400. I always put off buying one.
A few years before that when I was shooting on the DVX, I kept thinking about making a shift to shooting on HD. The HV20 came out and I thought it was a cheap way to make a switch. I could sell my DVX and get an HV20 for around $900.
When I had my DVX, I kept thinking how great it would be to own an adapter. I kept thinking, if I only had an adapter it would probably look better. I looked at the redrock, brevis, letus, and was seriously considering them all.
About a year ago I bought an HVX200. I was gearing up to test out my new PC and editing HD and in the end we went with the DPs EX1 which shoots 1080p. Being new the HD, I didn't really look into a whole lot, just knew the HVX shot HD and it looks great. I also had a brevis adapter but noticed it was really hard to shoot unless I had a lot of light. We shot a feature with a Redrock around two years ago, it's sort of common sense but it reminds you of the challenges you face using it when you turn it on and can barely see anything in a room with the lights on. I ended up selling it all off, primarily because I realized everything is going 1080p. Blu-Ray movies are 1080p, my monitor is 1080p, if you shoot HD, 1080p is where it's at and the HVX I had shot 720p. So I then started thinking about getting an EX1.
So here we are a few years later. I got my adapter. I got my 18mp slr camera. I got my 1080p HD video camera. All in one. What a breakthrough in technology. I'm personally surprised the thing doesn't get more hype because the HV20 got a lot of hype and it didn't shoot 1080p, it didn't have interchangable lenses, it didn't even have manual controls from what I recall. This thing is incredible. And to think I was going to pay $1400 for a 12mp camera 2 years ago and here I am with an 18mp camera for nearly half the price that does more. It even shoots a little faster at 3.7 continuous frames per second.
Just an incredible piece of gear all around to own. Worth the price for the photos alone. Worth the price for the HD alone. Worth the price for the adapter feature, it's just really where it's at for indie filmmakers looking for a cheap alternative to get out there and shoot a few things. Although on something like a feature, you have to start thinking more practical and using an HD camera would be a bit easier because of syncing up audio. But if you can get use to it, I think great things can be done with it.
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I've got a Gorillapod SLR-Zoom. It works great with my T2i/17-55/HoodLoupe setup for the type of shots you're describing. Here's also some 'poor man's stabilizer' stuff you can do with it:
http://www.cinema5d.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=532#p6004