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Have you seen any set of rules anywhere be so clear that there is no possible interpretation?
As usual, life is grey, not black and white, and things inevitably get complicated. Have you seen any set of rules anywhere be so clear that there is no possible interpretation? Same here. The issue is not breaking the rules when it is a clear-cut case. Issues arise when a rule is subject to interpretation by reasonable persons - same standard as in the case of law. The mod is supposed to interpret the rules - and when it's a difficult case, that's when a PM from a mod is appreciated. Otherwise, the poster has no opportunity to grow in understanding of the rules. And believe me, careful as I am, I too have come up against rules here, the interpretation of which baffled the heck out of me - guidance in such cases is quite critical (like the rule about keeping things "positive" in tone... which is just about impossible to figure out - I got jumped on by mods for criticizing American-made cars, f.ex., "because that's too negative, and prevents success by members of this site", meanwhile rants and complaints about all kinds of other things are apparently fine... go figure).
In this case, there was no ambiguity.
Exactly! I also had one of my threads closed in the past and I wondered what happened. What I learned back then is, that you should not worry about it or get upset. It's just a thread, nothing morei ascribe to a more simple solution for those whose thread is deleted. it's a technique i like to call "get over it". :nads:
I met several of them this past weekend (including Jason, Barry, Larry and JDS) and they could not care more about keeping this community a fun and informative place for all involved.
Rubbish. We're human too, and do the best we can, and everyone makes mistakes. Making a comment like we don't care what you think is pretty baseless in my opinion. Especially when I know what (on the whole) goes on behind the scenes to try to make and keep this place great for the members and to create opportunities for the members day in and day out.
Yes, sometimes things do come up for interpretation, and if one wants to dwell on or single out a particular instance, I'm sure one could make any argument they wish. It's when people ignore the whole and focus on a single issue that it begins to be a little frustrating to hear comments like yours.
There is a lot of time and effort put in by folks here who get very little in return for their work in helping build this place. Mods and non-mods alike. This place has many freedoms and on the whole is much more tolerant than the majority of places out there, and yet we do have some rules and guidelines, and I can pretty confidently say that overall this place runs like a well-oiled machine. People get along for the most part... there isn't a terrible amount of bickering in comparison to other sites. We don't have that much of a problem with spammers like other sites. You can (professionally) say whatever you want about companies, even if they are sponsors. Sponsors don't dictate the content of the forum here. We don't forbid you from saying you didn't like a sponsors product, or from recommending another place to buy like many forums out there do, etc, etc, etc.
Generally these ill feelings stem from cafe threads that were closed and/or deleted. We like to give folks a place to chill and commune and hang out and talk about stuff, but sometimes the noise level in the cafe gets to be too much and we start thinning it out. We aren't a cafe site though. We try to be a filmmaking site. Recently we noticed an increasing trend of "rant" threads in the cafe. Folks posting complaining threads about anything under the sun. We wanted to discourage that and so have started thinning out some of those types of threads. I don't know about you, but I come here as a member to get away from the stress and b.s. of everyday life, not to read 100 threads about other peoples problems with their dog peeing on their floor, or whatever. I do understand that this is a community, and as such, sometimes people just need to get stuff off of their chest and they feel this a safe place where they can do that. I fully understand that, and we try to recognize that to an extent. But, endless rant threads about nonsense just gets to be too much and kinda fills the air with a negative vibe. Make sense?
And, for the record, just b/c you may see one of your threads go away, but not another one that you think violates the same standards that were pointed out to you, it does not mean that we think one is ok and another is not, or that we are picking them out of thin air.... There are over a million posts on this forum. It's kinda hard to read them all![]()
Later,
Jason
I know how much hard work goes into running these things. I'm the admin of another filmmaking forum elsewhere on the web and I put a lot into it, get nothing in return, etc. The biggest difference is that I listen when the members make suggestions, even something as small as this. This rule in particular isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it's the principle of the thing. If multiple people are asking for something to change, it would be nice if you listened to them. That's all.
Mods deleted it. That's the one thing that I hate about this forum. Threads will go poof if they're thought to be inappropriate in some way. I'm all cool and fine with locking them down and such but deleting a thread without explanation, not cool.
Indeed. That we may not have done what some people wanted doesn't mean we don't listen. We've got nearly 40,000 members. It would be impossible to do everything anyone wants.
The idea that we ignore the membership is ludicrous.
You are right. But I tried to find the thread to talk about it, but a mod deleted it.I understand if some want to debate the policies of this forum BUT THIS IS NOT THE THREAD.