Manual Controls

I would have to say taking still photos is what the D90 does best.

Well, yes...but aren't we talking about D.video here? I fail to understand why VDSLRs aren't considered suitable for corporate (talking head) interviews and executive messages. It sure seems to be a gr8 fit to me.
 
I'm sensing a bit of film-maker elitism here.

We use ours to shoot stills and video for weddings and it is a PITA to have to break things up into 4 minute intervals to save the camera from overheating, regardless of the fact that the D90 is a $1000 still camera. Just because it's a wedding or corporate shoot does not mean that it does not deserve to be shot in available light with a nice cinematic bokeh.
 
I'm sensing a bit of film-maker elitism here.

I was sensing the same thing...especially when with the jello and rolling shutter and weak codec, etc...the D90 doesn't seem particularly well suited for film making either. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
I'm sensing a bit of film-maker elitism here.
because we think manual control is way more important than recording time? i don't know, i would probably feel that way even if i was making corporate videos. we spend way too much time on every shoot trying to get the exposure we want and last i checked corporate videos are also dependant on exposure.
 
The desire for manual control sure doesn't exclude the desire for longer recording times...I want it all!!! lol
 
I'm sensing a bit of film-maker elitism here.

...the fact that the D90 is a $1000 still camera. ...

I don't think manual controls is alot to ask for from a camera.

And that is not a fact to call the D90 a still camera. Look at the spec sheet one more time. :) I think it's great that your working with what you have. And I think most of us agree here that the D90 is capable of great things. And the proof is in the pudding, as many great projects are posted here frequently. But that does not mean that we don't have high expectations from the equipment that we work with. Of course if money was not an issue we would have cameras and lenses costing absurdly amounts. But we work with what we have.
 
My beef with the D90 is the auto everything in D-Movie. If I was shooting film with a camera that had auto shutter and iris I would at least have the speed(asa) of the film as a constant. But when all three parameters are auto it's a mess because the D90 doesn't display the settings. Plus the D90 pushes to much ISO most of the time. D-Movie was not designed with filmmakers in mind, it's a point and shoot feature.

So iris can be controlled with manual lenses, ISO can be somewhat adjusted using one of the light tricks and the shutter is where it wants to be. Using ND filters helps lower the shutter speed. Yes, I want manual control of my D90 video so it doesn't take me ten minutes to set the camera. I think Nikon will bring it on, but not for the D90, D5000 etc... What used to be a basic feature on a camera is now a high end feature. Who would have thought...
 
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That's the bigger problem than manual control. Shoot anything with lots of detail or try getting a wide shot and the image falls apart. All the manual control in the world can't fix this. We're not going to get the camera we want in the D90 or D5000. I'm very hopeful from the look you can get from these cameras that Nikon's next generation of cameras will give us what we're after. I hope it comes soon, I'm getting impatient.
 
It's the codec
no. zoom into live view and you'll see that the lousy debayer, scaling and noise reduction has already done most of the harm. your point still holds of course, there's severe softness and lack of detail in the image, but your argument is flawed.

/matt
 
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