fedecaneda
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Sorry my friends, but i think that nikon is never gonna give us manual controls on D90. Just a felling but one year had past and they never give us any firmware update.... just a felling.
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pveal
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Of course he/she means 'feeling', get over the language brassière already
@fedecaneda, yeah, i'm not too optimistic either. Exposure locking and dicking around with the d90 feels quite normal now, but manual control would be wandarfall.
Alpha Beta Omega
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I'm pretty sure the D90 will not get a manual control feat with a new firmware. If they had it in their heart to compete with the 5DmkII they would have fixed it.
It's not even sure if the upcoming 400/300s will have this or even a better codec/higher bitrate.
It's not even sure if the upcoming 400/300s will have this or even a better codec/higher bitrate.
Nikonslave
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Yes. If Nikon doesn't make a move here, they will just die. I will sell everything to get a canon.
But what hey, they were the one to introduce the video feature for reflex. No way they can stop improving now. They must have a lot of problems getting it done correctly though. They don't have the video technology as Canon or Panasonic do. I think they might be understanding they put themselves in big troubles by launching the D90 with its video feature now...
Wait and see until August... I repeat. There is no way they don't try to improve. It is their idea. But they clearly don't understand video technology like auto focusing while rolling, or codec compression expertise and hardware going with it... I truly believe it is just a matter of time. At worst one year from now... But they will, they have to. They are just understanding now how important this feature is and that it is not only a gadget.
I know Japanese companies. They take centuries to make decision but once they make it, they achieve results quickly. Let's just let them do their freaking no end meetings...
But what hey, they were the one to introduce the video feature for reflex. No way they can stop improving now. They must have a lot of problems getting it done correctly though. They don't have the video technology as Canon or Panasonic do. I think they might be understanding they put themselves in big troubles by launching the D90 with its video feature now...
Wait and see until August... I repeat. There is no way they don't try to improve. It is their idea. But they clearly don't understand video technology like auto focusing while rolling, or codec compression expertise and hardware going with it... I truly believe it is just a matter of time. At worst one year from now... But they will, they have to. They are just understanding now how important this feature is and that it is not only a gadget.
I know Japanese companies. They take centuries to make decision but once they make it, they achieve results quickly. Let's just let them do their freaking no end meetings...
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who cares about AF with video. and I dont mind not having a AVCHD codec, because then i'd have to buy a new quad-core beast to run any software to support it. I think nikon did just fine, all they have to do is implement manual controls to control shutter & aperature.
1080p would be nice, but even that isn't super important.
1080p would be nice, but even that isn't super important.
To be honest it's never been an issue on our projects. What are you using the camera for?
mediamilitia
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I would say that the over heating is more of an annoyance then a problem. Try turning off Live View when your not shooting. Having completed 7 real projects with the D90 I can only say I ran into this problem the first day I shot with it which was my bad. I was still learning the limitations. It has happened a couple of times since then but only if I walk away from a shot and leave live view on when it doesn't need to be on. My suggestion is frame up your shots with the eyepiece and leave live view off until it's roll time.
What I think most are forgetting is that this is a $1000 STILL camera. A camera that was intended to be a STILL camera that happens to have video. The D90 is a DAMN good still camera at that. The five minute recording limit is longer then shooting 400FT loads of 35mm film. That's only 4 minutes. Or how about 100FT daylight load of 16mm in a Bolex. That's only 3 and a half. I compare the five minute limit to the changing of a film mag.
The D90 is Nikon's FIRST generation of stepping into this world of video. When is the first generation of anything perfect. How long did it take RED to get from an idea to selling cameras?
Nikon is just getting their feet wet. Do I expect a firmware update? No. Will Nikon learn from the flaws and just make a new camera; I would hope so. I've learned to understand the flaws for the D90 and embrace it's strengths. I take that information so I can get through every production knowing what I can...and can't do with this camera.
90% corporate stuff (i.e., interviews, executive messages, customer testimonials) and 10% family (i.e., 6th Grade Band recital, birthday party, a short thank you from the bride and groom). IOW, not indie films. All amateurs and the corporate folks are bothered greatly about the 5 minute recording limitation...they don't understand editing (or production in general) yet make all the purchasing decisions.
Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree...
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mediamilitia
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The D90 is the wrong camera for this kind of work.
Alpha Beta Omega
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I would love to go with Nikon in the future. The D90 is such a great stillcamera and I got a nice setup of lenses I do enjoy every time. But if and when Nikon makes a move it will be in a new model. D300s, D400 or D700x maybe.
We just have very high demands on a new camera. We want it to act as a complete videocamera and the only feature really lurking us into the DSLR thing is the lenses and big sensors.
We had a 5DmkII at work today and I played with it for a while. Now that's a serious still shooter and makes great video. But still very limited in other areas as 30p and rolling shutter.
The biggest thing with the D90 for me is when you look tru the viewfinder and see what beautiful images are there, but they never come out anywhere near as good in the actuall files. If they only where, I could forgive so much of the other short comings.
We just have very high demands on a new camera. We want it to act as a complete videocamera and the only feature really lurking us into the DSLR thing is the lenses and big sensors.
We had a 5DmkII at work today and I played with it for a while. Now that's a serious still shooter and makes great video. But still very limited in other areas as 30p and rolling shutter.
The biggest thing with the D90 for me is when you look tru the viewfinder and see what beautiful images are there, but they never come out anywhere near as good in the actuall files. If they only where, I could forgive so much of the other short comings.
mediamilitia
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There are PLENTY cameras out there better suited for recording interviews and doing corporate work. In fact most video cameras are better suited for someone who does 90% interviews. You need a camera that isn't limited to compressed mono audio and has audio inputs (XLRs) to record quality audio along with having recording capabilities longer then 5 minutes. The D90 could be a good B-Roll or Product camera, try using it to shoot the beauty shots of your programs.
Well, they love a nice bokeh like everybody else. They like looking good in available light from across their desk. I have a Edirol 09HR that does a gr8 job with the audio. Most of all, they love "good, fast & cheap". They get a warm fuzzy feeling when I show up by myself with everything I need in a carryon backpack roller. They don't like it when they are on a roll spewing profound thoughts and I have to interrupt them at 4:50.
The GH1 doesn't heat up and will fill its SD card. I just wish AVCHD were easier to work with on my tired old laptop. I may be barking up the wrong tree with the D90 but I don't think I am with HDVideo DSLRs in general.
The GH1 doesn't heat up and will fill its SD card. I just wish AVCHD were easier to work with on my tired old laptop. I may be barking up the wrong tree with the D90 but I don't think I am with HDVideo DSLRs in general.
mediamilitia
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Everything will happen in time...We are still just breaking the ice with DSLRs. Two years ago it was all about the RED.
Yeah.. I don't think the D90 is tailored for interviews and videos that need longer takes. I'll use a video camera for those types of projects, before your Nikon melts away.
mediamilitia
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I would have to say taking still photos is what the D90 does best.
I have a D90, and love the idea of a DSLR that can do video. Although I still think RED is where it will be at in the near future.
I plan on getting a 2/3'' RED to go with my D90. That way I'll have an awesome still camera that takes pretty good, but limited, video. And I'll have an awesome 2/3'' high quality video camera that takes pretty good, but limited, stills.
With their powers combined, I'll have a flexible and diverse set up for a variety of basic production needs. "Go buzz light year, to the rescue."
RED offers great post production support, and I love the idea of shooting video in a RAW format for CC, among other things. Deeper DOF is a small price to pay for shooting raw at such a low price.