Macbook Pro in trouble?

SPZ said:
But I'm so used to it...The workflow, color correction, my plugins, quicktime...
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Trust me, I understand that very well. I'm just saying: don't go thinking that what you've got is "all that" until you see how others have done it. Lots of people seem perfectly content with Apple's implementation, but all I'm saying is Apple's implementation (while perhaps adequate for you) is nowhere near as good as it gets.
 
Barry_Green said:
Trust me, I understand that very well. I'm just saying: don't go thinking that what you've got is "all that" until you see how others have done it. Lots of people seem perfectly content with Apple's implementation, but all I'm saying is Apple's implementation (while perhaps adequate for you) is nowhere near as good as it gets.
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Totally agree, I have Avid Media Composer, Edius and CS3. They are all excellent for P2 workflow, I do find myself using Edius more than Avid or CS3. The only reason I even considered a Mac book pro was because it can also run windows.

The more I look at this Sony laptop the better it is for me and a P2 workflow. If apple comes out with something better by Feb. 29th (the soonest I could get this Sony Viao) I'll take a good look at it.

Looks like it'll be the new Sony Viao for me.
 
Count me as another person who was waiting for the new Macbook Pros. I have an old TiPb that can't handle editing the HVX (800ghz). I know FCP from version 1-3. So I've been waiting for the new MBPs.

But now you tell me I could get a blu-ray burner in a laptop.... that is very tempting. All the macrumors say the new MBP will not have that. I've got a blu ray player and love the way it looks.

Barry, if I were to move over to a new PC based editing system (and I'm not sure I can, I also love the Mac OS), which would you recommend for an ex-FCP user?
 
Barry makes some good points about CS3.

Its funny with the FCP vs Avid war that has been raging for a decade it seems that Adobe might become the next great pro NLE contender while Avid and FCP are ***** slapping each other like a couple of school girls.

It would be interesting if by the time one of them came out victorious no cared because they had all switched to Adobe.
 
cbln said:
which would you recommend for an ex-FCP user?
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Premiere Pro CS3. It's the most FCP-like editor out there, and probably the easiest for an FCP user to switch to. Plus, FCP comes in a complete "suite", and so does Premiere Pro (After Effects, PhotoShop, etc).
 
Barry_Green said:
Premiere Pro CS3. It's the most FCP-like editor out there, and probably the easiest for an FCP user to switch to. Plus, FCP comes in a complete "suite", and so does Premiere Pro (After Effects, PhotoShop, etc).
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Plus, if you know your FCP shortcut keys, you can change the defaults in Premiere to be the same as FCP or Avid.
< Is an Adobe fanboy.
 
I am always surprised to hear or read for that matter negative comments about the Mac. Maybe Los Angeles is different, but I have worked in VFX for about 15 years, and all the editing stations I have ever seen in the many post production houses I have ever set foot use a mac, that would be 90% of the Avids with the exception of the early Avid symphony. And if you look at editor's job listing, it seems that most of them are for final cut pro editors theses days. I have yet to see a job listing for a Sony Vega editor, never saw one, and the only one job I worked on ( a music video for a very well known female singer) which was cut on Adobe Premiere turnout to be a disaster when the edl was exported to the Flame (autodesk), so much so that I had to reconstruct the entire edl in Flame which was 5 days wasted where I was in effect re-doing what should have been done in offline... Every-time I ask the editor if he could do this or that with Premiere, he would always say, no it can't be done or Premiere doesn't do that (the project involved a lot of very complex time warp that had to be synch to the talent singing). I know for a fact that any Avid could have done it no problem...
Frankly when I choose an editing application I mostly look at how many people use it, so that if my editor get sick I can get someone to take over pronto, and the flexibility I have in the post production pipeline. I don't know if FCP is the best for P2, all I know is that I have never had a problem with it and P2, everything has always worked very well and final cut is very well integrated to any pipeline I choose, wther it is sending a project to a Smoke, flame, symphony, Pablo, IQ, you name it... I can send the project to London, and not wonder if people are going to be able to open it. That my friends is power and at the end of the day, what really counts.

cheers.
 
i agree with you somewhereinla,
also, it is not just about how many things a software can do but how trustable/reliable it is when doing wathever it does.
when i work with avid or FPC i´m sure i´ll finish the job and yes i can send it anywhere and it will be opened.
but i´ll be saving money for that vaio machine.
cheers
 
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That thing could run Final Cut Pro like mad!

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I think you'd be disappointed if you joined the Mac camp for a good deal. I purchased a MBP to switch to Final Cut Studio. It's intuitive. It works. I can't say that for Premiere Pro. Plus, the OS-interface is just as intuitive, functional, and aesthetically pleasing.

I don't need to worry about security breaches. I don't see iTunes slow down. Windows can't match Address Book, iCal, or Mail out of the box.

Things like that add up, and depending on who you are and how much you utilize all the aforementioned programs and features, you can justify the cost.

Not up front of course, I had a panic attack when I placed my order.
 
I use premier pro cs3 on most all my jobs and I think it's a piece of crap. It tries so hard to be a real NLE but then it falls flat on it's face. I mean I can't even break out a stereo track into mono without detaching it from a clip? What a load of crap. I beg for the day I can afford a mac to run final cut.
 
I bought my MacPro last year for a bunch of reasons. FCS was the main one but now I have the option of FCS, Master Collection (on XP or OSX), and all sorts of things. Besides that the 3yr warrenty on anything that breaks was incredible. In one full year I've had to use the power button b/c of a freeze only twice. It's been a great experience. So when it comes to what NLE works or not, I have the option to use Premiere or FCP and also Windows XP or OSX.

For a laptop, I'm waiting for the next MBP update. Besides, until this point the MBP has been benchmarked to run Vista faster than any PC laptop. We'll see what happens. No matter what its going to be expensive, PC or Mac when it comes time to get a laptop.
 
so... what do you think of the new update? Seems a bit weak, IMO... was hoping for standard 4gb of RAM, optional SSD hdds + option Blu-Ray burner... and I'm sure others have some stuff they were hoping for... doesn't seem like they did much except put in Intel's new chip, throw in the already done multi-touch track pad, and upgrade to an overdue LED screen... :(
 
A very disappointing update, indeed. It is quite far of the Vaio in therms of value for money.

And its design is getting old. Now is the time for the competition to gain market share...
 
I read that they were sort of forced into this upgrade now from Intel ceasing production of older chips. Rumor has it that a more "major" update will be coming this summer, maybe June, using the Santa Rosa platform (centrino 2) and hopefully some other updates....

I'd like to see 3G/Wi-Max capability built in. Blu-Ray burner. 4gb RAM standard. SSD option. For starters.
 
If you guys think apple laptops were expensive before, I think you'll blow out your O ring when they make BR burners an option....LOL.

I don't think the update is bad, thats why its called an "update" not a new machine. If they made a new case and stuck the same stuff in it, then yea it would be lame, but doubling the GPU RAM is a great update IMO. Maybe not as big as others expected but o well.

- Kyle
 
filmguy123 said:
I read that they were sort of forced into this upgrade now from Intel ceasing production of older chips. Rumor has it that a more "major" update will be coming this summer, maybe June, using the Santa Rosa platform (centrino 2) and hopefully some other updates....

I'd like to see 3G/Wi-Max capability built in. Blu-Ray burner. 4gb RAM standard. SSD option. For starters.
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Excluding the wi-max/3g and the SSD, the new VAIO already does what you ask for... Which makes me look into this update with even bigger disappointment...
 
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