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Placed my reservation for a Craft Camera today.

www.craftcamera.com

Wish me luck.

https://vimeo.com/163181999

Full technical specifications will be announced early this summer.
HD Video Element, Super 16mm CMOS Sensor with Global Shutter (1920×1080, 1280×720)
4K Video Element, Super 35mm CMOS Sensor with Global Shutter (4096 x 2160, 1920×1080, 1280 x 720)
Frame rates 23.98, 24, 25, 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94, 60
Fast and slow frame rate speeds at intervals up to 120fps
Recording Formats Cinema DNG and ProRes (additional formats will announced).
DIMENSIONS (W X H X D)
Video Elements: (97.15mm x 96mm x 39.68mm) (3.7” x 3.6” x 1.5″)
Store, Battery, Audio Elements: (97.15mm x 96mm x 33.4mm) (3.7” x 3.6”x 1.3″)
LCD Elements: (97.15mm x 96mm x 30mm) (3.7” x 3.6” x 1.2″)
Fully assembled cinema camera: (97.15mm x 96mm x 170mm) (3.7” x 3.6” x 6.6″)

According to http://resourcemagonline.com/2016/0...t-of-letting-you-customize-your-camera/65613/

resourcemagonline said:
Recording capabilities include ProRes and CinemaDNG on high-speed CFast media. An SSD version will be released at a later date. Both the HD and 4K models of the camera are equipped with thirteen stops of dynamic range.

The 4K model comes with a Super 35mm size sensor while the HD model utilizes a Super 16mm size sensor.

Both cameras record high speed images up to 120 frames per second. A hot swappable EF, MFT, and PL lens mount called the Speed Mount allows users to swap lenses in seconds.

The removable ND Sled allows users to add a internal mechanical ND filter to the Craft Camera eliminating the need for external lens filters. Users can add different Control Links to remotely control the Craft Camera. The Control Link comes in three versions: Ethernet, Serial with LANC, and Wireless. Additionally the system has 2 mic inputs, 1 output for audio, HDMI and SDI outputs for video, dual battery operation, and hot swappable CF cards.
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I subscribed to the email list. I love innovation. Lets see if they can pull this off.

I think this is very close to what all cameras will be in the future. Just much smaller and nicer industrial/ergonomic design.
 
13 stops of DR for $3k is so 2013 BMCC :P
And I have a feeling the sensor is more like a BMPC but I'd love to be wrong...
 
Bern Caughey said:
Interesting concept, though I don't get putting all the ports (SDI, XLR, etc) on the operator's side of the camera.
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Why NOT? I love it when a cable is poking me in the side of the head! :undecided

To Dennis, you are a brave soul. I'm too scared to order new cameras these days.
 
gene_can_sing said:
Why NOT? I love it when a cable is poking me in the side of the head! :undecided

To Dennis, you are a brave soul. I'm too scared to order new cameras these days.
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Well some of them make it easy by making any deposit completely refundable or even offering a discount with the deposit. I'm about to put in a preorder for a Kinefinity Terra but it seems like a no-brainer given it's only $150 and gives you a $500 discount when it ships, and worst case I just cancel and get my money back.
 
I am excited for this but worried it's going to be another Blackmagic camera. I really felt like they should have been at NAB this year. Really hard to put down money on a camera with no footage. Reminds me of when I was selected to check out the AJA Cion and after using it for a day, I crossed it off the list for potential cameras. Very limited color space and highlight roll off was non-existent. I was really excited about the specs but the execution came up short.

I hope I am wrong because a camera like this would be really cool. I like the idea of building my camera for certain shoots.
 
I wonder if that's an actual physical camera they have made that might be semi-functional. It looks like it could be a good 3D CGI rendering which would be not quite be as cool.
 
Wow. That really is a leap of faith on your part - or do you have some inside dope? Of course I was one of those guys who laughed when respected DP's were putting deposits down on the original Red. And then became just a touch envious when I was still shooting on my HVX200.
 
I heard that Craft Camera is actually owned / started up by RED. But this is only speculative without any facts whatsoever. Read my posts in the industry news section for more details ;)

Speaking of RED, it's been 10 years now since RED first starting taking deposits on the same premise.. and even today people think the idea of Craft is as crazy as RED back in 2006.
 
Just read through that.... and I hope you are right. Or even if this isn't Red related...that there is someone behind the curtain besides the great & powerful Oz... but rather real engineers with camera sensor experience. :cheesy:
 
starcentral said:
... Speaking of RED, it's been 10 years now since RED first starting taking deposits on the same premise.. and even today people think the idea of Craft is as crazy as RED back in 2006.
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Red wasn't crazy. The consumer photo cameras like Canon 5D (13 MPX) and 1D (9 MPX) already had enough resolution for 3K/4K video. The question was in managing the data rate but that was already done in Dalsa Origin (4K) and ARRI D20 (~ 3K), both recording Raw to the external Codex units. Hypothetically, one could reverse engineer the signal processing off ARRI and Codex, buy-to-order a sensor and still have enough margin for a business that was and still is very low volume/high margin. The technology was there already. It just needed to be packaged properly as a niche product, which then had essentially no competition in its sector. These days, you have everything from smartphones to point-n-shoots to bridges to drones to DSLR/DSLM to small-medium-"large" sensor camcorders to the pro style cameras, with pretty much every niche filled by a dominant industry player or a major independent. And this becomes less of an engineering question than of finance, marketing, distribution, service, etc.
 
starcentral said:
I heard that Craft Camera is actually owned / started up by RED. But this is only speculative without any facts whatsoever. Read my posts in the industry news section for more details ;)

Speaking of RED, it's been 10 years now since RED first starting taking deposits on the same premise.. and even today people think the idea of Craft is as crazy as RED back in 2006.
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Well to be fair, you feel a little bit safer when a billionaire is behind the venture - being able to force things through seems a little easier with that kind of backing.

You're a braver man than me Dennis - when established companies like Blackmagic and Sony can't put out a new camera without some serious birthing pains, I worry significantly about the ability of little guys to deliver things better.

Especially when I see ludicrous design decisions like the positioning of those I/O ports on the modules (right where you head/evf will want to be).

Good luck!
 
your really put a deposit without having seen any piece of footage? Ouuh good luck then!

I learned one lesson from buying a BMPCC and the 7Q: I never will order or buy again any piece of hardware relying and trusting on future features. And I will never buy a camera as first adopter without having seen footage and reviews from other users. Rare availability is not the reason.
 
There's little point in being first owning a camera unless it's a camera everyone wants to use. And with an unknown brand that is unlikely to happen. Especially today when there's so many excellent cameras already on the market.
 
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