Jaime Valles
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Boomerang said:
Now THAT would be cool, too. A little, little 3CCD DVCPro25 palmcorder that records to two or three 8GB P2 cards built-in. Nice wide angle, and make it waterproof, too. The perfect home-movie camera.
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Now THAT would be cool, too. A little, little 3CCD DVCPro25 palmcorder that records to two or three 8GB P2 cards built-in. Nice wide angle, and make it waterproof, too. The perfect home-movie camera.
Exactly, sony has there HD home camera for the consumer. I think for my family vacation stuff I always seem to end up using my DVX because I just cant help but shoot in 24. It would be really great to have a smaller version for my personal needs.
They would still get my money on the HVX for work, why not nail me for another 1,000 on a smaller camera instead of sony.
They would still get my money on the HVX for work, why not nail me for another 1,000 on a smaller camera instead of sony.
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Not a prayer. The HD-SDI on the Canon XLH1 is twice as fast as the maximum data rate of FW800.Benton said:
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It gets transferred to tape depending on how you shot it. If you shot 1080/60i, that gets downrezzed directly to 480/60i. If you shot 1080/30p, that gets downrezzed to 480/30p; same with 1080/24p or 1080/24pa; those get dubbed to 480/24p or 480/24pa.
For 720, that's more open. There are several ways you can shoot, and different ways you can dub. You can shoot 720/60p, and that will get copied down to 480/60i, one frame per field. If you used off-speed frame rates (such as 12p, which results in each frame being recorded 5 times) then you'll see the same effect in your DV footage.
If you shot in one of the "N" modes, it'll be copied in that same mode to 480, on a frame-for-frame basis. So if you shot 720/30PN, it'll be copied to 480/30p. If you shot variable frame rates in 720/30PN, it'll still get copied frame-for-frame to 480/30p, thus preserving the fast-motion or slow-motion effect. For example, if you shot 720/30PN with a frame rate of 60fps, then each second will be dubbed down to two seconds of 480/30p.
Now, if you shot 720/24pN, the same thing will happen except you get to specify the pulldown pattern to use -- 720 has no pulldown, but 480 still has to have 2-3 or 2-3-3-2, so there's a menu item that lets you specify 24p Standard or 24P Advanced pulldown. Once you establish that, it does a frame-for-frame copy, adding pulldown to the 60i signal as it goes.
For 720, that's more open. There are several ways you can shoot, and different ways you can dub. You can shoot 720/60p, and that will get copied down to 480/60i, one frame per field. If you used off-speed frame rates (such as 12p, which results in each frame being recorded 5 times) then you'll see the same effect in your DV footage.
If you shot in one of the "N" modes, it'll be copied in that same mode to 480, on a frame-for-frame basis. So if you shot 720/30PN, it'll be copied to 480/30p. If you shot variable frame rates in 720/30PN, it'll still get copied frame-for-frame to 480/30p, thus preserving the fast-motion or slow-motion effect. For example, if you shot 720/30PN with a frame rate of 60fps, then each second will be dubbed down to two seconds of 480/30p.
Now, if you shot 720/24pN, the same thing will happen except you get to specify the pulldown pattern to use -- 720 has no pulldown, but 480 still has to have 2-3 or 2-3-3-2, so there's a menu item that lets you specify 24p Standard or 24P Advanced pulldown. Once you establish that, it does a frame-for-frame copy, adding pulldown to the 60i signal as it goes.
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Well since this post strayed I have learned a whole lot, so I have to say thanks a bunch.
Some really important info here. There's so much bouncing all around that it's hard sometimes to really see the answers even when they're right in front of you.
As far as the size of the camera and the tape drive. I like the idea of having the tape there for as long as DV is a viable format. If cameras get too small I think you run into that term....law of diminishing return. If it gets to small it may just not be functional. Just look at how cell phones are going. I'm actually not buying the smalled anymore, because the smallest doesn't work well.
I'm all for a consumer version that is tiny however, just not too tiny. I have one of those Samsungs that records to a 2 gig memory stick pro and is about the size of my cell phone. It's cool, but if there is anything less than daylight you'll never get it to keep focus.
wow, I'm rambling again.....in short...Tape drive, good. Too small, bad.
Some really important info here. There's so much bouncing all around that it's hard sometimes to really see the answers even when they're right in front of you.
As far as the size of the camera and the tape drive. I like the idea of having the tape there for as long as DV is a viable format. If cameras get too small I think you run into that term....law of diminishing return. If it gets to small it may just not be functional. Just look at how cell phones are going. I'm actually not buying the smalled anymore, because the smallest doesn't work well.
I'm all for a consumer version that is tiny however, just not too tiny. I have one of those Samsungs that records to a 2 gig memory stick pro and is about the size of my cell phone. It's cool, but if there is anything less than daylight you'll never get it to keep focus.
wow, I'm rambling again.....in short...Tape drive, good. Too small, bad.