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phijie

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anybody wish/ predict an hvx but without any tape capabilities, strictly the p2 cards and hard drive recording? i know im not even gonna bother with the tapes when and if i get an hvx. i imagine it would be much smaller and sleeker in design.
 
Screw that..I love the idea behind putting a tape drive into this camera. I hope they keep it that way. Having that tape option will come in handy one day, you'll see..
 
I like having a tape drive in there. It's kind of like an evolutionary reminder. A useless tail that you insert tape into and shoot minidv and laugh and remember, wow, those days were really bad. :thumbsup:
 
rgdfilms said:
Screw that..I love the idea behind putting a tape drive into this camera. I hope they keep it that way. Having that tape option will come in handy one day, you'll see..
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Yeah, like the day you're shooting on location deep in a forest somewhere...and you're heading back to base camp to dump your P2 cards because they're all filled up...oh wait...did you hear that? what was that? right there...behind that tree....do you see it? oh my god, it's moving....get the camera, get the camera!!

The tape drive might be handy that day.
 
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phijie said:
anybody wish/ predict an hvx but without any tape capabilities, strictly the p2 cards and hard drive recording? i know im not even gonna bother with the tapes when and if i get an hvx. i imagine it would be much smaller and sleeker in design.
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Yes, in a few years that does seem likely. By then, larger P2 cards will exist and SD Video will be outdated. Getting rid of the tape drive will lower the size, weight, and cost, but for now the tape appears to still be useful...


Bob Diaz
 
Well, just because of the post title....

I've decided to wait for the HVX200a just because Panasonic listens to its customers and I know they will make some small but significant changes that will make it an awesome camera. I'm always nervous about shelling out a huge amount of cash for something that hasn't been widely tested in the field.
 
The main reason to keep a tape in there is for when you're videotaping a celebrity wedding and you get busted by George Clooney's bodyguards and they take your camera and won't give it back until you give 'em the tape.

The TAPE.

Heh heh. "Sure, here you go, guys..."
 
heh heh heh.. i laugh everytime you tell that story Barry.. makes me think of how you would know that kinda thing happens :)

Remember as well, you can do a SD proxy off the P2 cards to tape as well.. this might be very usefull to people that want to do an offline that cant work with P2.
 
... also doesn't the frame rate conversion work w/ the tape?

gotta' remember that clooney story. classic.
 
Jarred Land said:
... you can do a SD proxy off the P2 cards to tape as well.. this might be very usefull to people that want to do an offline that cant work with P2.
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You mean, like, edit using my new Vegas 6.0??????

I'm looking at their banner ad on this site right now ...

"Think big picture ... Think HD ... Think 16:9 ..."

... But don't you dare think DVCPro HD ...
 
Jarred Land said:
Remember as well, you can do a SD proxy off the P2 cards to tape as well.. this might be very usefull to people that want to do an offline that cant work with P2.
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On the big cameras, yes, but not on the HVX -- it doesn't have the capability to accept the proxy card. Or are you talking about something else?
 
Barry, if you switch to VCR mode... hold down the mode button and it goes into DUB mode... select the clips on the screen and then press the 2 rec buttons.

Dubbing begins, any 720 or 1080 HD footage gets dubbed down to SD tape in DV format... you can even do pulldown if you get creative.

Surely your just confused.. I expected you to do this off the top :) but maybe you forgot that tape drive was in there lol.
 
Well, when you said "proxy", I thought you were referring to the proxy encoding card on the SPX. On the SPX you can get an MPEG-4 encoder card that will actually create a low-rez offline proxy linked to your clips, so you can actually do proxy editing right then and there. That capability doesn't apply to the HVX, so when you said proxies, that's what I was thinking of.

Yes the dubbing to DV works, I've tested it and it's most cool. Only problem (in using it for proxy work) is: how do you frame-accurately identify and associate the clips? Maybe it keeps frame-accurate timecode, and you can substitute clips in based on timecode somehow? Or use some sort of timeline conform tool? Not sure...
 
Barry_Green said:
The main reason to keep a tape in there is for when you're videotaping a celebrity wedding and you get busted by George Clooney's bodyguards and they take your camera and won't give it back until you give 'em the tape.
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i've actually imagined scenarios like that, maybe catching the latest version of cops beating up rodney king again and you hand over the the blank DV tape while you still have the police brutality in 720p on your P2 cards.

on a side note, i almost ran over george clooney's pig once. and krista allen from baywatch was in my passenger seat at the time. god i miss being a PA sometimes.
 
Wow I couldnt imagine waiting for a new version, if thats the case I should have never bought my DVX and stuck with my sony Hi8.

Honestly I look foward to the HVX.

I would like to see panasonic release a small consumer grade camera that shoots 24 to memory card(better than miniDVD) for all my vacation stuff. I hate to bring the HVX to disney or europe this year. Sony has a small fake 24fps camera, nice for family stuff but not a panny.
 
Jarred Land said:
Dubbing begins, any 720 or 1080 HD footage gets dubbed down to SD tape in DV format... you can even do pulldown if you get creative.
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Does timecode from the P2 clips get transferred accurately to the miniDV copy? And what happens with, say, 720pN 24 (or any variant of 720p) material and any timecode it carries when dubbed to miniDV with pulldown?

I know many a client who would want the contents of the P2 card dubbed to miniDV in the field, so they could start editing with their existing workflow and leave the HD offline to me...

Regards,

Jim Arthurs
 
Jim Arthurs said:
Does timecode from the P2 clips get transferred accurately to the miniDV copy? And what happens with, say, 720pN 24 (or any variant of 720p) material and any timecode it carries when dubbed to miniDV with pulldown?
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Barry Green said:
Only problem (in using it for proxy work) is: how do you frame-accurately identify and associate the clips? Maybe it keeps frame-accurate timecode, and you can substitute clips in based on timecode somehow? Or use some sort of timeline conform tool? Not sure...
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Jim Arthurs said:
Does timecode from the P2 clips get transferred accurately to the miniDV copy?
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In the test I ran it didn't, but there may be settings that will preserve it. Still working on figuring all that out.

And what happens with, say, 720pN 24 (or any variant of 720p) material and any timecode it carries when dubbed to miniDV with pulldown?
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720/24pN records its timecode as non-drop 24-frame timecode, so it counts from 0 to 23 and then starts back at zero.

720/60p timecode appears to be based on :00 to :29. Not quite sure how that fits into the grand scheme of things...
 
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