HVX200? Pah! I want one of these! (RED HD CAMERA)

I can't believe the fellow at HDforIndies.com bought into this so hard. Looks very fake, or like something I'd do if I wanted to April Fool my friends. Maybe Obin put it up? Just joking Obin.

The website reminds me of a very funny bit from the Simpson's... folks are gathered at their weekly birding group. The moderator asks "Did anyone see a new bird this week?" Every hand goes up. He then asks "Okay, anyone see a new bird that wasn't on TV, in a book, or at the zoo..." all hands go down but one... he concludes "... or in your dreams?". The last hand goes reluctantly down.

Regards,

Jim Arthurs
 
Exif data of the 2540p Picture:
"Canon Canon EOS-1D Mark II 'Adobe Photoshop CS2 Macintosh"
 
hmm,.., I might have to put the EOS-1D on my christmas list.. looks like it takes some nice pictures :)

- Mikko
 
It's similar to Drake Camera or Kinetta.
I live in Italy so I don't know, did anybody of this community bought these cameras?
Sometimes it seems that those adverting of these powerful cameras want to stop the enthusiasm of regular cameras as Panasonic Ag-Hvx200, we know people want a powerful cameras like Viper filmstreem or Cinealta at 6000 dollars, we all hope that because now it's only electronics, the price could be take down.
But If I could be themselves I send this advertsing only if I've the camera ready to ship, it's true that 9999 euros don't seems big as 100000 Cinealta, but if one spend 9999 euros for a camera, 2 or 3 months after he can't buy a new camera, so I think those people understand these worries and speculate on them.

We cannot wait for eternity to shot in Hd (or any resolution similar to 35mm film)! We can't waste all the money (If we are not rich people and I'm not as millions of people) to the newest camera coming out two months after Hvx200 for example.
So it's civil responsability make it clear what are the true cost of this electronics, don't speculate on them! If we already could buy a cinealta because the price of this electronics is so high to preserve Hollywood standards and to stop young filmakers, we must protest against this philosophy!
So people that make this project oughta diffuse the real price of this electronics.
I know we have different politics ideology, but money is money, regular people works 12 hours a day to make some dollars or euros, and they have the same rights of famous directors, if their quality product is for 80% debtor to the tecnology that they use and not for mysterious talents.

I hope in a better world,

Danilo Del Tufo
 
MarcusX said:
Exif data of the 2540p Picture:
"Canon Canon EOS-1D Mark II 'Adobe Photoshop CS2 Macintosh"
Click to expand...

Yeah, that was the first thing I checked as well, what a bunch of BS
 
If you look closely they're not actually claiming the images are from the camera...

"The above frames are to be judged for size comparison only."

They're just showing what size of image the camera could produce.
 
If a camera had all of that stuff in reality it'd probably be near ATLEAST $200,000.

As I kept reading the specs, I started to laugh louder and louder. There's no way it's real. And if it is then I wonder what the hell they plan on doing to sell it to us.
 
I don't think this is real. They claim they're not only developing a camera, but a new codec, lenses ("ultra high definition") and flash storage system. Everything from a unknown company who cannot even do a proper website ("stay tuned!").

And the part about the output options is just stupid: 4:2:2 2540p 60 fps in a 100 Mbps stream max. or even 4:4:4 raw over HD-SDI. That would be about 16 GBit/s of data.
 
Probably just took a pic with a rebel or something or nikon and cropped 16:9. There is only a few cameras that shoot UHD right now, none are for the public,
 
Whilst the site is cobbled together in about 5 minutes, that's not the point. Whether the camera ever gets further than a designers sketch pad is beside the point.

The point is, that there are people ut there, who have an idea and act on it. remember the Italian guys who hacked apart a FX1 and added their own lenses?
remember those people who added a feature onto a DVX so you can take out the raw data rather than go through a compression codec?

If there is a way of doing it, with some sticky back plastic, a couple of middles of toilet rolls and a few paper clips, you can be sure that there is an enthusiastic bunch of guys willing to have a go.
 
Whether or not this thing is possible now in the future it surely will be, but here is the equation that I currenty care about:

720/24p with variable frame rate= $6,000

that'll do for now. Now, of course I said "for now". :)
 
Whether it comes out or not in the end I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it is real, or at least they are working on it for real. From the specs though, this is competing with the uber-high-end of digital Cinema such as the Panavision Genesis. I predict well into the 6 figures, if if even goes for sale as opposed to just rent.

What continues to amaze me is when they mention how many gazillion pixels it has but not a single word about dynamic range.
 
Yeah I have to say this sound alittle too good to be true. I want it to be but then again so does just about everyone else - which could be why this (fake?) website exists. Their website doesn't go into enough depth for me to put alot of faith in it...yet but one thing that has me thinking is their exclusive web address. As I understand it all of the 3 letter web address have been bought up and if these guys rescently bought this domain name then I probably cost them a fair amount of money which makes be think that they may be serious after all. One thing seems nearly certain from viewing their site - By the time this camera becomes available the HVX200 will be long released and possibly on to its 2nd generation.

Now if this isnt true, oh well...at least its interesting to realise that we are away from moving parts and tape mechanisms. The modular quality of PCs is about to come to the world of camera design. The near future will be very interesting.

"Ah damn my camera has a virus again!" ;-)
 
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