HUMOR: HVX200 Gripe List

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BobDiaz

The Professor
WARNING: If you lack a sense of humor, do NOT read this post. If you despise satire and bizarre twisted humor, do NOT read this post. For those who haven't guessed it, this is a SPOOF and intended only as a joke. :evil:
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MY MODEST PROPOSAL FOR SAVING BANDWIDTH ON THIS FORUM:

As anyone who has been on this forum for more than a few weeks knows, we keep seeing the same gripes about the Panasonic HVX-200 over and over. While I don't want to rain on anyone's free speech, we could save a lot of bandwidth if the gripes that get repeated over and over and over and over and over are reduced to a simple code.

The code is broken into two parts: AA-bb where AA- is the main heading of the gripe and the -bb is the subheading for the gripe. This will make it easy for anyone to see which argument is being thrown out AGAIN for the 47,924th time.


GENERAL COMPARISONS OF OTHER COMPANY'S EQUIPMENT: 1-xx

1-1 The Sony is A LOT better than the Panasonic.
1-2 The JVC is A LOT better than the Panasonic.
1-3 The Canon is A LOT better than the Panasonic.
1-4 The Sanyo is A LOT better than the Panasonic.
1-5 The Fisher Price is A LOT better than the Panasonic.
1-6 The Wind-up Toy Car A LOT better than the Panasonic.
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P2 CARD GRIPES: 2-xx

2-1 P2 is SO expensive.
2-2 The time is SO limited.
2-3 ...But you can purchase other memory cards for less money.
2-4 Memory Sizes will NEVER get any larger.
2-5 If you erase the file your video is gone.
2-6 It will never work.
2-7 It's too much trouble to work with.
2-8 You can't use the card as a floatation device.
2-9 The cards don't have a built-in MP3 player.
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HVX-200 CAMERA GRIPES: 3-xx

3-1 You can't record in HDV.
3-2 If you crank the gain to +18dB, the image looks noisy.
3-3 It doesn't perform like a 2/3" camera.
3-4 The lens is on a fixed mount.
3-5 It won't shoot any images with the lens cap on.
3-6 It looks like it needs to go on a diet.
3-7 It won't work as a clock radio.
3-8 It has too many options.
3-9 It doesn't have enough options.
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GENERAL PANASONIC COMPANY GRIPES: 4-xx

4-1 It's OK that JVC does not release the low light specification and Canon won't say how they do the 24F, BUT Panasonic is trying to hide something from us when they won't tell us the native CCD Resolution.
4-2 Panasonic is trying to hide something from us when they won't say what the sales figures are, but it's OK that Sony, JVC, and Canon never give out that information.
4-3 When do I get MY camera???????
4-4 ...And we all know that Panasonic is driven by the Dark Side of the Force.
4-5 Panasonic is trying to hide something from us by NOT posting the PDF of the User Manuel... Oh wait, never mind...
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IMAGE QUALITY GRIPES: 5-xx

5-1 The Canon has a higher resolution than the Panasonic and that's the ONLY parameter to judge a good quality image.
5-2 It has Noise in the image and NO other 1/3" CCD HD Camera has this problem, does it?
5-3 We all know that lenses and CCDs have NO impact on resolution, therefor the Sony's 1440x1080 4:2:0 HAS to be sharper than the Panasonic's 1280x1080 4:2:2.
5-4 The (highly compressed and recompressed) images in other file formats suck; therefor the camera must suck.
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PERSONAL ATTACKS: 6-xx

6-1 ... And we all know that Jan works for the Dark Lord or "He who must not be named".
6-2 While Barry has had a chance to test every camera, he can't possibly be an unbiased source, like me.
6-3 Judging from Bob's last post, he MUST have been on some REALLY POWERFUL drugs.
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Bob Diaz
 
LMAO :grin: :grin: :thumbsup:

If only this COULD put it all to bed we could get back to more important issues like what's art and what isn't art... :evil: :grin: :thumbsup:
 
I dont know why they didnt include a meat tenderizer, pretty lame of them. Also, what is the deal with no built in 3D? I mean, that is the future... LAME LAME LAME PANNY!


ash =o)
 
4-1, 5-2, 1-6, 2-8, 6-1,

BOB my hat goes off to you; this is the best post I have read in a while. I am on the floor crying like a little girl I’m laughing so hard. (Thank God for wireless keyboards) anyway my tip of the hat to you sir and the work you put into that. I think we need a new HVX t-shirt??
 
AshG said:
I dont know why they didnt include a meat tenderizer, pretty lame of them. ash =o)

Its in firmware, but its only activated in the PAL models. This allows it to be imported as a class B kitchen utensil, otherwise European customers would have to pay millions in taxes.

Funny thread Bob. Maybe one of the guys from the DIY forum could write a program to randomly insert one of these complaints in each thread, saving us even more time.
 
thanks bob.

i've been watching these posts forever.

another semi-professional waiting to get my hands on one of these.

how many of us have been owning/operating DVX cams and renting HD cams on the side...

i leave to china in a week and the artic circle shortly after. i wish i had an HVX to bring with me. we all know how the waiting game goes...

i don't want to address the complaints because the people who are going to use this cam to produce incredible images and make a living (just like i did with my vx1000, pd150, dvx...) understand that you have to play a waiting game.

the HVX is an amazing step towards a camera that previously costs so much more. in 1997 i was shooting skateboarding and bmx videos with a vx1000 that cost nearly $4,000.00 - mind you, an 18 gig drive to hold my footage cost nearly $8,000.00 the technology (bandwidth/picture) of the new HVX doesn't begin to compare.

thank you everyone for your posts and information on what we have to look forward to.
 
You forgot some points Bob:

- Barry is on Panasonic's payroll
- Since you can update the HVX200 firmware, it should be possible to upgrade to 2/3"!
- The CCD of HVX200 and DVX100 are the same (Varicam as well)

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I do think we can now send this thread link to those trying to piss in the punch.


I too would add that they should have made the camera "scorcese proof". We should be able to smash it. and then pop it back together. That's how Scorcese has decorated his office before.. with breakaway furniture so he can smash it and then put it back together.

Also for 6k it should beable to deliver oral pleasure, right? J/k


Funny stuff!
 
3-11 It doesn't have the "sexy-ogrophier" device which will make anyone look in shape and 50 lbs lighter in full high-res.
 
Bob, what about the NLEs? You have touch on every one of my gripes about Panasonic excepted the NLEs. This is shameful...:evil:
 
2-5 2-8 3-3 and, of course 6-3.

And did someone really complained 3-1?!

Now that I'm looking at it you should study some algorithm to give advice, like:
(1-1 + 2-1 + 3-1)= Why don't you just get a sony HDV?

This system could answer a lot of threads that start really headed in one direction.

Leandro
 
omfg this is awesome. i totally drowned yesterday cuz of 2-8. it's a good thing i'm a cat who has 4 more lives left.

but seriously i've often thought there should be a few stickies at the top of the main page that address the HDV, P2, CCD res issues. that way regular forum members can tell people that they are blind in addition to performing a search for the answer to their question.
 
Additional Gripe

Additional Gripe

Come to think of it, why didn't Panasonic include a Klingon Disruptor (Death Ray). If someone steps in front of the camera you could zap them into a pile of dust. This could be a very useful feature for dealing with stupid people who get in the way!!!

Bob Diaz
 
BobDiaz said:
Come to think of it, why didn't Panasonic include a Klingon Disruptor (Death Ray). If someone steps in front of the camera you could zap them into a pile of dust. This could be a very useful feature for dealing with stupid people who get in the way!!!

Bob Diaz

And all this time I thought that is why we mounted a shotgun on the cam.
 
BobDiaz said:
MY MODEST PROPOSAL FOR SAVING BANDWIDTH ON THIS FORUM:\

Note - Sense of Humor required:

Add my gripe. The HVX200 is the most overhyped camera this century. The "Category Killer" that didn't notice there was competition. I think THAT's why there's legitimate frustration. We were told this thing was going to "KICK ASS". I think most of us thought that meant in comparison to the competition.

Instead it's like Carl Rove and Dick Cheney walked in and are saying "Well all the cameras are kickass. Karl, did you ever say we'd kick MORE ass than anyone else? No Dick... I just said we kickass in a general sense and anyone who misconstrued that as we will kick THEIR ass is just a political opportunist that didn't get their full dose of the koolaid yet. Wiretap their phone."

I'm bringing hip waders to the Panny booth at NAB in case their mouths start moving.
 
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