how?

A full set would be very attractive to me. I appreciate the level of quality in your "other" companys' products. I have no doubt what RED would bring to market.

Blair I am with you on this big time
hopefully with a least 2 focal lengths wider than the bottom end of the zoom (18mm) is an attractive option.
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Thanks again Jim for responding, you made my weekend. hahaha...
 
Thanks firewallet.

As for the prime set, of course in a perfect world, I'd love something like 11-14 focal lengths EVENTUALLY, but starting with a standard set of 18,25,35,50,85mm would be great.

Add in 12,14,65,100,135,180 later. Then, further down the line, perhaps some other choices, but the above is pretty much all I'd need.
 
Jannard said:
I'd rather make the decision before giving detils...

Jim
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Yeah I think you probably won't know what the market's like until we see how the Red One do out there. But right now it looks to be a pretty large group of people who's gonna need lenses for their Reds. It's absolutely a thing to consider! And it's great to hear that you guys are thinking ahead.
 
The beauty is that the lenes are RED agnostic-- they are pl mount- one is not dependant on the other and the market is huge for all filmmakers -- to put it simply. High Quality primes at The RED price point = long waiting list.
 
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I'll cast a vote for what I would call a "basic" set, obviously a "full" set could be marketed in a second wave later.

Basic Set for me: 9mm, 14mm, 24mm, 36mm, 65mm, 100mm.

Notes; I already have a 300mm on order from Red for big compression or long reach, I will have the 18-85mm zoom so I don't feel the need to have 5 primes that cover the same range. The 9mm and the 14mm appeal to me for shooting location interiors in small spaces. The 9mm is also good for forced perspective, overt POV mood shifts, etc. If I have my conversion right the 24mm should look like mid 30s after the conversion to the Super35 sized sensor and be a great workhorse lens for handheld and Steadicam that allows you to operate in close quarters without much too much of the "fisheye" distortion that the 9mm & 14 mm will have. The 36mm on a S35 sensor should be the classic "normal" FOV look that some documentary producers request. The 65mm on the S35 format should look pretty close to an 85mm on 35 which I can see using a lot for close ups where I want the back ground to go really soft and get the nice geometrics on points of light that are never quite as sweet on a zoom. I am attracted to the 100mm for compression shots that the 300mm is too much for, for focus racks in exteriors from the primary subject to an onlooker or other element that needs to be connected to the main subject.

I am sure there are tons of Directors, DoPs and operators on this forum who can do pages and pages on this subject, many with more authority than I, but I did feel the need to at least briefly explain why I selected the focal lengths I did.

Blair S. Paulsen
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I just want to get back to the doubters about price and viability...and Jim can ignore what I'm saying because I don't really know the behind the scenes and am only speculating.

I would think that if I were creating a product born from passion and talent and I were a billionaire I would be able to take a bit less profit on my "dream project" in order to make it fly. So, while business sense is very important on any endeavor, on a project like RED I might be able to sell the camera for $17k with not as much of a need for personal profit in the beginning. Deferring the financial payoff to years beyond the personal payoff.

However, if Sony or Panavision want to produce a "dream project" it's almost 100% economics and not much left over for the passion of the project.

OK, I've been driking so you'll have to forgive me. I don't know what it's really like to be groundbreaking and very wealthy. :) that said don't go crazy Jim.
 
As someone looking for the best results from the camera (from a cine perspective) of course I'd be interested in the primes. Who wouldn't be?
 
alacritymedia said:
A set of decent prime lenses, hopefully with a least 2 focal lengths wider than the bottom end of the zoom (18mm) is an attractive option.
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I think you misunderstood my post. I was just asking how many sets Jim/RED would want to see sold total in order to justify creating the lenses.
 
Brook Willard said:
I think you misunderstood my post. I was just asking how many sets Jim/RED would want to see sold total in order to justify creating the lenses.
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Good luck getting that information
 
Aye, now that was my fault... obviously an exact figure won't come out. But the difference between "around fifty," "a few hundred" and "over a thousand" is a big one...
 
Jim - you've heard the saying if you build it we will BUY !!!
now when can we reserve a set of RED primes ?
 
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