GH3 How to stop the display info from disappearing?

Good idea I was thinking about something like my release cable to take pictures with. But sometimes that will try and focus too. I pretty much set up a shot the same I would if I were taking a picture. Make sure the exposure etc is the way I want it then frame the shot. Once I start shooting I better get through that one without having to change the settings.

LyleGorch said:
I guess I don't mind the VF info disappearing, I got into the habit of using the Panasonic wired remote back when I was using the GH2 on steadicam and I still use it all the time, a half-push on the button brings up the info whenever I need to see it without jarring the cam or stopping/starting the recording.
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Benjobe said:
Another option would be for them to keep the 10 second limit on the Display Info but then make the EVF proximity sensor capable of reactivating it so I could just wave my hand in front of the EVF instead of touching the camera buttons. Would this appeal to anyone else besides me?
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Actually, the GH3 already works this way. When the display info disappears, I can just wave my hand/finger near the EVF sensor and the display info comes back on. It disappears again in 10 seconds, but another wave near the sensor brings it back. All without disrupting recording. Of course, this assumes that you have EVF proximity sensor setting turned on in the menus.
 
seadragon said:
Actually, the GH3 already works this way. When the display info disappears, I can just wave my hand/finger near the EVF sensor and the display info comes back on. It disappears again in 10 seconds, but another wave near the sensor brings it back. All without disrupting recording. Of course, this assumes that you have EVF proximity sensor setting turned on in the menus.
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Just bought the GH3 yesterday. This method of waving hand on proximity sensor works. But can be annoying to keep doing it every 30 seconds, or 20 seconds.

Would still prefer if there was a way to ensure audio levels won't go off.
 
seadragon said:
Actually, the GH3 already works this way. When the display info disappears, I can just wave my hand/finger near the EVF sensor and the display info comes back on. It disappears again in 10 seconds, but another wave near the sensor brings it back. All without disrupting recording. Of course, this assumes that you have EVF proximity sensor setting turned on in the menus.
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I'm out of town, so I can't test it for myself, but by doing this doesn't it switch the view to the EVF?
 
I can't believe Panasonic hasn't addressed this yet. Major pain. I have run out of record time in the middle of something critical because I didn't press a button to wake up the display every 10 seconds. Maybe Jan can put in a word.
 
After my rant in the 'Why doesn't the GH3 have peaking' thread, I'm going to have a little one here too.......

Philip Bloom made Genesis with a pre production GH3, now don't you think that if the display kept disappearing he would have said something to Panasonic as feedback? Either the pre production version didn't do this or Panasonic just don't care about the people using their cameras. Why why why, would you make the on screen display disappear during recording? At the very least, have a menu option to over ride it. It just doesn't make any sense! I mean, to have audio level display is great but what good is it if I cant see it after ten seconds?

Camera manufacturers should just make the hardware and leave the firmware to people like Vitaly or Magic Lantern who know and care about what users want.
 
it is an OLED burn in issue from memory with the new screen. thats the reason why display dissapears. I was shooting interviews hand held the other day and it bloody drove me nuts,, didnt know what my mic level was at or if it was even on at all. I was crossing my fingers half the time hoping audio was being recorded.
 
The audio display disappearing is a complete stuff up. At least you can see the timer that you're still rolling, but audio is so critical that it needs to be on screen even as a separate display.
 
MR Fanny said:
it is an OLED burn in issue from memory with the new screen. thats the reason why display dissapears.
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Then why did they choose to use an OLED display? It's obviously not fit for purpose if the info can't be displayed for longer than ten seconds. What exactly are the positives of this OLED display? It doesn't look any better than what was on my 7D and to be honest, the fact is if you are viewing it at anything other than dead on centre the colours are all out.
Panasonic, I'd rather see critical information on my LCD or EVF than have an OLED that uses a little less power than traditional screens.
How could ANYONE at Panasonic think this was a good idea?

PS: Panasonic, can you please give us the option to make the info sent through HDMI stay on. Some of us are using decent EVF's that don't have issues like yours do and we would like to be able to see what we NEED to see!
 
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MR Fanny said:
I was shooting interviews hand held the other day and it bloody drove me nuts, didnt know what my mic level was at or if it was even on at all. I was crossing my fingers half the time hoping audio was being recorded.
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Watching levels tells you little about audio. If you aren't monitoring the audio through headphones, you deserve what you get. Panasonic added a head phone jack to the GH3 just to facilitate audio monitoring. Use it!
 
Bruce Watson said:
Watching levels tells you little about audio. If you aren't monitoring the audio through headphones, you deserve what you get. Panasonic added a head phone jack to the GH3 just to facilitate audio monitoring. Use it!
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Don't beat around the bush Bruce, tell us how you really feel. :cheesy:

I had a friend record an interview with no headphones once. He just used his visual meters. The whole thing was clipping and he said it didn't appear to hit the red at all. Anyway I tried to fix it with adobe audition with very little success. He ended up having to reshoot and of course it was his boss, so not a situation you want to be in.
 
I honestly don't see how it is possible that Panasonic claims this is done to prevent screen burn in......One feature if any they or someone else will hopefully fix.
 
Bruce Watson said:
Watching levels tells you little about audio. If you aren't monitoring the audio through headphones, you deserve what you get. Panasonic added a head phone jack to the GH3 just to facilitate audio monitoring. Use it!
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yes sir will do =) I am too used to visual re-assurance that things are still working, but point taken.

@J.F.K you hear about it with mobile phones with OLED displays. Not to say that "it is" the reason, they never directly confirmed my question when asked. Possible burn in screens means returns which in turn means cost to repair and replace under warranty. I'm all in for a fix.
 
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MR Fanny said:
yes sir will do =) I am too used to visual re-assurance that things are still working, but point taken.

@J.F.K you hear about it with mobile phones with OLED displays. Not to say that "it is" the reason, they never directly confirmed my question when asked. Possible burn in screens means returns which in turn means cost to repair and replace under warranty. I'm all in for a fix.
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Ok, lets say screen burn in occurs or might have when testing and this was the reason it disappears. Now my question is, they need to develop a new screen or the info text in a way that would not cause this. I remember my older plasma tv would have a screen scrambler feature, which was basically done for image retention. Just like the automatic sensor cleaning for our cameras hopefully something like this can be developed as well.

In all honesty, screen information is very important and something that needs to be corrected.
 
Bruce Watson said:
Watching levels tells you little about audio. If you aren't monitoring the audio through headphones, you deserve what you get.
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That's actually totally incorrect, as it's very easy to set your headphone level lower/higher than actual level. Yes, you will hear clipping and background noise, but not necessarily the right levels. The ONLY correct way to properly monitor audio is through levels. The best way to set levels is to generate tone, set your levels and headphones to that. And if you want to do audio properly you should invest in a juicedlink or beachtek. Bad audio is way worse than bad video.
 
malibudutchie said:
That's actually totally incorrect.....
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+1

Not only that, there's the teensy matter of you can't plug in headphones when the monitor is flipped out ( flip out screen is supposedly one of the GH3's advantages). Also, there are other reasons to monitor the displays with just a glance and not have to find and press a button or wave or whatever.

It's my screen. If I want to burn it out that's my decision not some engineer or marketing manager.

Thanks for the link to the Panasonic site where user reviews can be posted.
 
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