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ahalpert said:
Im not sure pixel-shifting is used by anyone for anything other than still lifes and possibly landscape
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And architectural. But landscape is where you may want the extra reach. And, if it's without artifacts a la S1R, then it can be used for BiF too. Or even portraits.
 
ahalpert said:
Im not sure pixel-shifting is used by anyone for anything other than still lifes and possibly landscape
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seems more market hype than anything useful. I've seen Tony & Chelsea and other users try to use it and have never heard anything positive.
 
Peter C. said:
seems more market hype than anything useful. I've seen Tony & Chelsea and other users try to use it and have never heard anything positive.
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Supposedly Panasonic does a much better job with it than other companies, according to testers like Lloyd Chambers. But I've still never heard of it being used professionally
 
Photographers have worse GAS than videographers...they all want the highest-resolution sensors and latest and greatest.

I'm sure the feature/gimmick can be useful, but IDK how many feel good using it.

However, not sure how it could be useful with birds in flight but maybe there's something IDK.
 
NorBro said:
... However, not sure how it could be useful with birds in flight but maybe there's something IDK.
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Technically speaking, a pixel-shifting composite photo - whether it's deciphered in camera or in post - just needs a codec similar to Long GOP, the difference being higher resolution but a lower frame rate for the stills. S1R has it, A7RIV doesn't Tony Northrup knew that about A7RIV but proceeded to shoot tree branches during a strong wind. Naturally, the leaves were smudged and he shouldn't have pretended that they were going to be anything but. However, he feigned a surprise and a discovery of a "Sony defect". He and Chelsea then giddily declared themselves to be Canon R5 users, overheating or not.

And that's why, along with his pontificates on the state of the industry, I have tuned Tony out.
 
You were once a big supporter...he's going to be disappointed, DLD...and what about Chelsea? You can't let her down, can you?
 
NorBro said:
You were once a big supporter...he's going to be disappointed, DLD...and what about Chelsea? You can't let her down, can you?
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I remember the yesteryear when the camera sales exceeded the hundred million mark and the number of video geared YouTube channels was in single digits. Meaning that I was around during the Dave Duglale - Curtis Judd - Toby Gelston - Mitch Aunger era. Man, I'm old.
 
That was only like 5 years ago, lol. Maybe 8. I used to watch Dave a lot when starting out in freelancing. Cheesycam, too (site).
 
DLD said:
Technically speaking, a pixel-shifting composite photo - whether it's deciphered in camera or in post - just needs a codec similar to Long GOP, the difference being higher resolution but a lower frame rate for the stills. S1R has it, A7RIV doesn't Tony Northrup knew that about A7RIV but proceeded to shoot tree branches during a strong wind. Naturally, the leaves were smudged and he shouldn't have pretended that they were going to be anything but. However, he feigned a surprise and a discovery of a "Sony defect". He and Chelsea then giddily declared themselves to be Canon R5 users, overheating or not.

And that's why, along with his pontificates on the state of the industry, I have tuned Tony out.
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I have used other similar methods to take multiple pictures at different exposures to create a large dynamic range, which have same issues. Meaning if the camera and subject aren't perfectly still the picture isn't sharp. So whether you're trying to increase pixels or dynamic range you run into the same problem. Landscape photography is sighted as the best application for such a feature but how many days are going to get no wind that will blow the trees? I agree with Tony that camera manufactures will list in the camera specs a resolution that isn't achievable the vast majority of the time due to motion restrictions.
 
here was the music video I mentioned before shot with tiffen black satin and 120fps, on the earlier subject of filtration and framerate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdkPipItyys



EDIT: looks like they added some mistiness in places, including the beginning, making it harder for us to judge the filtration... the sharper-looking spots are softened with filtration only
 
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Peter C. said:
I have used other similar methods to take multiple pictures at different exposures to create a large dynamic range, which have same issues. Meaning if the camera and subject aren't perfectly still the picture isn't sharp. So whether you're trying to increase pixels or dynamic range you run into the same problem. Landscape photography is sighted as the best application for such a feature but how many days are going to get no wind that will blow the trees? I agree with Tony that camera manufactures will list in the camera specs a resolution that isn't achievable the vast majority of the time due to motion restrictions.
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Cameras with pixel shift are prone to severe and prominent artifacts like checkerboarding that are just about impossible to deal with, making pixel shift pretty much useless for field shooting, a finding from long experience and true of Pentax and Sony pixel shift (I have probably 50GB of ruined Pentax and Sony pixel shift files).

But the Panasonic S1R uses an 8-frame multi-shot high-res mode approach that performs in-camera merging of those 8 frames into single raw file with size equivalent to four frames. A smart merge, not a dumb-recording science fair project like Pentax and Sony.
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https://diglloyd.com/blog/2019/20190413_2150-PanasonicS1R-MultiShotHighResMode-AlpineCreek.html
 
Now, the rumor has OM-1 (new OMD camera) with a 20 MPX sensor. Sony's had it showing on its own site since last May. It'd be OK for GH-6. Not sure if this is a "wow" camera for OMD.
 
We might have to get used to camera manufactures making their own unannounced announcements again (could be a good thing) as I just found out Nokish*ta from Japan closed his Twitter account recently (was a major source for various rumor sites).
 
NorBro said:
Photographers have worse GAS than videographers...they all want the highest-resolution sensors and latest and greatest.

I'm sure the feature/gimmick can be useful, but IDK how many feel good using it.

However, not sure how it could be useful with birds in flight but maybe there's something IDK.
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Maybe when it comes to cameras but us poor video suckers have to invest in lighting, audio, editing equipment, speakers, camera support systems of various types, gimbals, drones, luts, 5000 light leak effects, fancy rigs, follow focus, rails and so forth. We get GAS from a lot of stuff and not just the high fiber items.
 
Yeah, that's true...actually this forum taught me how passionate people can be about lighting and grip gear and support gear, etc.

It was always cameras for me and nothing else (as far as this industry). I of course needed some of the other stuff but it was mandatory and purchases were almost never driven by a salivating desire.

I can confidently say 97% of my 70+ cameras purchases were all syndrome-related.

[Where's Mike Krumlauf...he can relate. He has a new camera every 2 weeks on his YouTube, lol. He buys them - used - doesn't rent.]
 
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