Emanuel
Cross-Examiner
That was (is) funnyThe Red One is the SECOND least-suitable product for ENG/news work.
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That was (is) funnyThe Red One is the SECOND least-suitable product for ENG/news work.
Does the Phil Bloom video look "Terrible" or "lousy" to you, or make the 7D look like "the single most UNSUITABLE camera for that type of job, hands down, no questions asked" ? Exagerrated statements like that hurt your credibility IMO.
That's the thread's quote. LOLHa ha...All you guys are crackin me up...lol. What are we arguing about again...??
But I will agree, I over-exaggerated when I said that the 7D was the single most unsuitable camera for news gathering. I should have said the t2i is the single most unsuitable camera for news gathering.(oh, wait -- since I introduced the t2i into the mix, that pushes the Red One down to third least-suitable for news/ENG.)
Some stuff we should reserve for ourselves also 'cause we can hurt other people without the due care.@BARRY GREEN:
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I'm guessing your Canon-bashing is because of your business agreement with Jim Jannard & because DSLR's have basically made the HVX obsolete. If the DVX came out 5 years ago with the same specs as the 7D, you'd be peeing your pants with joy, and this site would be called "CanonUser" instead.
@BARRY GREEN:
-So if you were a news cameraman in Iraq with terrorists shooting at you and IED's blowing up left & right, instead of a 2 pound DSLR you'd rather carry around a $25,000 , 30 pound, 250GB of memory per hour , 2 min boot up time, 30 min battery life, RED ONE? Do you realize that the RED ONE battery alone weighs more than a 7D? Plus imagine trying to get a once in a lifetime news shot , and having to wait 2 minutes for your RED ONE just to turn on.
-So if you were a news cameraman in Iraq with terrorists shooting at you and IED's blowing up left & right, instead of a 2 pound DSLR you'd rather carry around a $25,000 , 30 pound, 250GB of memory per hour , 2 min boot up time, 30 min battery life, RED ONE? Do you realize that the RED ONE battery alone weighs more than a 7D? Plus imagine trying to get a once in a lifetime news shot , and having to wait 2 minutes for your RED ONE just to turn on.
& are you ignoring that ABC news just cut 300 jobs all over the USA? Cost is the #1 factor when it comes to TV news. Not to mention that internet streaming is becoming more & more crucial to TV news, and DSLRs are perfect for internet video. If an entire TV news department had only $350,000 to buy equipment would they buy 1 $350,000 Sony F23 or 100 7D's for half the price ?
i think this thread is done
Let the dust settles down. The worst would be to enter in denial and to start to edit it or delete this or that. Each one has the right to his own. We can be on our own when our point is to learn and defend what we believe. This is either a forum for moviemakers and a professional forum, above all.We've already established that RED is not suitable for this work either.
This is getting comical, and you're probably well on your way to getting the coveted Bronze Membership.
p.s. I'm surprised to see so many Austinites in this thread. You guys want to grab a beer sometime? :beer:
@BARRY GREEN:
-So if you were a news cameraman in Iraq with terrorists shooting at you and IED's blowing up left & right, instead of a 2 pound DSLR you'd rather carry around a $25,000 , 30 pound, 250GB of memory per hour , 2 min boot up time, 30 min battery life, RED ONE? Do you realize that the RED ONE battery alone weighs more than a 7D? Plus imagine trying to get a once in a lifetime news shot , and having to wait 2 minutes for your RED ONE just to turn on.
& are you ignoring that ABC news just cut 300 jobs all over the USA? Cost is the #1 factor when it comes to TV news. Not to mention that internet streaming is becoming more & more crucial to TV news, and DSLRs are perfect for internet video. If an entire TV news department had only $350,000 to buy equipment would they buy 1 $350,000 Sony F23 or 100 7D's for half the price ?
Not sure if I should laugh or to be serious. :beer:I swear to god, people have drank the DOF Kool-Aid, and as long as you can get that shallow focus, nothing else matters.
p.s. I'm surprised to see so many Austinites in this thread. You guys want to grab a beer sometime? :beer:
Some stuff we should reserve for ourselves also 'cause we can hurt other people without the due care.
Barry is a professional. It is normal he may have connections in the industry. It is a common place to take this as granted. It is not even a problem. We all know where he's used to often post, so nothing new to see here.
He is one of the most valuable posters we all know, even if we can disagree with his points at times. You can just argue, that's all. It's always a pleasure to read him anyway.
Sure, but it better be sooner rather than later, since I'm planning to go out of state next week for a long time.p.s. I'm surprised to see so many Austinites in this thread. You guys want to grab a beer sometime? :beer:
I just wish he supported the Canon DSLR's too instead of bashing it just because he has a new agenda other than helping indie filmmakers find the best & cheapest tools for filmmaking.