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And what is the point of this thread? Why should we care about who's using what? If the point is about what can be achieved by using a DSLR on a fancy production, then the thread should be concerned with professional productions using DSLRs, not the people who are using them. Seriously, what is there to be gained by listing the members of an unofficial "celebrity Canon DSLR users" club (which is what the OP did)? And the OP even misrepresented his premise, because of several of the persons on his list haven't actually stated that they're using Canon DSLRs.I think the point is missed here.
Actually, they care more about the content than how it looks. That explains why photos and videos from cell phone cameras have exploded in popularity and why YouTube is a worldwide addiction, despite its video quality being mediocre at best, at least in the early years. The decision to buy or use DSLRs is more about pleasing oneself than one's audience. That's not to say that the audience doesn't appreciate the improved look, but clearly there are different priorities. So you can't use the audience as your justification for what camera you choose or recommend.99% of the planet (your audience) does not care about 4:2:2 vs. 4:4:4 colour space. What they care about is what looks good.
Who in this thread said that you absolutely can't do something with a DSLR? I think that we're all in agreement that a DSLR can be made to work in just about any situation. But the more "negative" among us just stress that it's not appropriate for every situation. So we don't disagree with you; we're just being realistic and pragmatic and down-to-Earth.But that doesn't mean you -can't- do it with something else too. If you think you can use something else and be a trailblazer then all the power to you!
The shortcomings of DSLRs versus dedicated professional camcorders have very tangible and immediate consequences on productions that use them. These issues have been discussed endlessly on this and other Web sites; such discussion is why this sort of forum exists. It's not at all merely a matter of "splitting hairs."When comparisons start being made on extremely specialized technical levels instead of celebrating the end products, you're just splitting hairs, really....
Same goes for literally every affordable camera ever made, back to the old 8mm film days. As everyone likes to say, it's the cameraman, not the camera...Anybody who knows anything about these DSLRS knows that they're powerful. And anybody capable enough can make something great with them. It's a matter of workflow learning curve and creative know-how.
?Why is so much time devoted to this kind of deviant off-topic instead of celebrating what true professionals are doing with them?
Would you rather shoot a movie on an iPhone camera or a Panavision Genesis? Both can do the job, you know...Why are so many arguments being made in text, about what these cameras can do, rather than backing it up with your own footage?
I agree that the bickering is ridiculous. But the truth is that those who are wrong are just being stubborn.Don't get me wrong, I love this forum and I've learned a lot after ghosting it for so long but I think all the bickering is misdirected and counter productive.
How is discussing the limitations of certain equipment not productive? How is "look what I can do" any more productive? How is the mere celebration of other people's work productive at all?I'd like to see more of "look what I can do" instead of "this is what you can't do, and why".
I'm not sure how you got all of these false impressions. Almost everyone in this thread, myself included, is a user and advocate of DSLRs. You seem to perceive or want to paint us as naysayers or haters/bashers, but our comments here show that it's simply not true. I can't see what constructive or productive goal is served by chastising us for being so "negative."Keep it positive and constructive.
The problem that we have is when people hype DSLRs to be more than what they are. They say things like DSLRs have made the RED and Genesis obsolete, or that they're suitable replacements for the high-end gear without qualification. Sure, individuals are free to believe whatever they want, but the hype that they spread will undoubtedly harm inexperienced users (who fall victim to the limitations about which they should've learned), if that hype goes unchallenged. And that's why we introduce such "negativity." But in truth, we're just as interested in productive discussion, if not more so, as others are.
The RED and the Genesis, and other cameras, also have their own limitations that make them not very suited to all applications.