dv tape recommandation
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Chris Santucci
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I've shot hours and hours of footage on the Sony DVM63 tapes and have yet to see any dropouts.
You shouldn't have to pay more than $10. per tape for these.
http://www.tapestockonline.com/somidvhd63mi.html
You shouldn't have to pay more than $10. per tape for these.
http://www.tapestockonline.com/somidvhd63mi.html
Kelly Olsen
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I attended a Canon HDV A1 seminar yesterday put on by a Canon rep who oversees the Canon Corp. sevice center here in California and he claims that the camera is made for a dry lube and that all the high end Panny tapes are wet lube and they they WILL clog the heads and that the service center has seen a lot of clogged heads on the A1 because of the Panny tapes.
He recommeded the high end Sony tapes, not the Canon tapes. I don't claim this is true but just passing on what a Canon rep said.
He recommeded the high end Sony tapes, not the Canon tapes. I don't claim this is true but just passing on what a Canon rep said.
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epsilonbass
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I thought that that the wet vs. dry thing has been one of those out dated information things from 5+ years ago, and also was under the impression that panny were the dry lube and sony were the wet.
Chris Santucci
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Panasonic uses a "dry lube," while most of the rest use wet.
The main thing is to stick with one type and you'll be fine.
The whole wet/dry lube thing isn't nearly the issue it was in the past.
I ALWAYS had problems with Panasonic tapes in my XL1 years ago after having used Sony and TDK tapes in it.
Someone correct me if I am wrong - But to my understanding all DVX's were made for dry lube tapes - the type that pana produces. And thus the A1 being made for dry lubes Pana tapes are the perfect choice.
Sony tapes are wet lube - seems he has that the wrong way around.
Sony tapes are wet lube - seems he has that the wrong way around.
I'm new to all this, but I have used Sony Premium tapes the last 8 months in my little Panasonic camcorder and they seem to be decent tapes. But now that I just got the A1 and I was thinking of only using the Sony DVM-63HD 63 Minute tapes in my A1. I understand using one brand can be helpful to your camera, but does it really matter if they are Sony Premium or Sony HDV tapes. Some post I've seen people stated you can't record HD format on DV tapes, it must be HDV tapes in order to record HD. I personally don't know because I'm new to all of this. You all here have more experience than I have so your advice is very helpful. Also here is a qoute from a DV-website I read.
"QUOTE: The only difference between standard MiniDV tapes and those sold as HDV MiniDV tapes is a degree of quality control during the manufacturing process. That does not mean that you won't have problems with the better tapes, you will if you don't follow the basic use principles. I have used nothing but Sony Premium tapes in all of my cameras, including two HDV cameras and now my HXL1 and have had not one drop out! These tapes cost about $3.00 each."
What's you all experience or advice?
Thanks everyone, this newbie appreciates it.
"QUOTE: The only difference between standard MiniDV tapes and those sold as HDV MiniDV tapes is a degree of quality control during the manufacturing process. That does not mean that you won't have problems with the better tapes, you will if you don't follow the basic use principles. I have used nothing but Sony Premium tapes in all of my cameras, including two HDV cameras and now my HXL1 and have had not one drop out! These tapes cost about $3.00 each."
What's you all experience or advice?
Thanks everyone, this newbie appreciates it.
Wrong. You can record HDV on to any brand of mini-DV tape.
This is true. The mpeg based nature of HDV means that drop-out becomes a bigger problem. HDV tapes are meant to reduce the regularity of drop-out.
tommy nguyen
Member
So Sony tape is the way to go I guess. Oh Papasean I love the 3 buck fact on the tape because I use a lot tape for shooting wedding. 10 buck tape is killing me for 30 tapes every wedding. I only use the tape twice for record and capture so I guess it will not be a lot problem with a lot playback.
Darkeyesuk2000
Active member
I was having a problem with my camera, both panny and sony were giving be drop outs and i had to keep cleaning the tapes, then i bought some maxell tapes at around 3 bucks or £1.65 from svp. No probs thus far but will keep you updated.
This whole thing about HDV Tapes are more robust than regular minidv does not wash with me.
It has taken over 10 years to devlope the mini dv format, Hdv has the best error correction of any format. Dropout is Dropout.
This is another way of taking us for a ride, how do we know for a fact that sony is not just rebranding cheaper tapes and selling them on at a higher price? I spend far to much money on tapes to make it worth my while paying sony for there expencive tapes.
This whole thing about HDV Tapes are more robust than regular minidv does not wash with me.
It has taken over 10 years to devlope the mini dv format, Hdv has the best error correction of any format. Dropout is Dropout.
This is another way of taking us for a ride, how do we know for a fact that sony is not just rebranding cheaper tapes and selling them on at a higher price? I spend far to much money on tapes to make it worth my while paying sony for there expencive tapes.
You make a good point Darkeyesuk2000, I'm so new to all this so I really don't know but I like getting opinions from others that are more experienced. The whole gimmit of what tapes work the best for everyone can be crazy, I guess you just have to settle on one brand, clean your heads when needed and just take good care of your camera & everything should be fine?
When I did my research it seems that all the brands now are using some dry or wet lube, most are using the DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) layers which is suppose to help lower dropouts, most of them are suppose to be Metal evaporated technology, most of them label their product with (outstanding picture & sound quality), some have some type of memory chip....bla bla bla...... MiniDV, MiniDV Premium, MiniDV HDV I mean really sometimes companies over exaggerate with pretty labels and cases, when it's just the same thing under all the packaging. So sometimes there is a lot of truth to these crazy makerting plots...lol... I've had me camera 3 weeks now and still haven't used it because I've been away, but I plan to use it this weekend and I guess the Panasonic or Sony will be my choice, but I plan buy a FS-C unit when I can so that will cut back on tape use.... we'll see.
Yeah, that makes sense. I think I saw some type of rewinder unit online the other day, but I really don't remember...lol. But yeah man I guess that's cool. I'll be doing music videos & small indi-productions so I'll be using it mostly for record then capture too... let me know how it works for you.
Kelly Olsen
Well-known member
I could have it wrong as to which is dry and which is wet, but what I do have correct is that a Canon employee who oversees the Canon Service Department said to a group of about 40 people at a seminar at Bel Air Camera in association with the LA Film Festival that the use of Panasonic tapes will result in clogging the heads of the A1 and that the number one problem that they see is clogged heads and that the number one reason of the clogged heads is Panasonic tapes.
He was not trying to sell Canon tapes. In fact, he said use Sony instead of Canon, but never, never use Panasonic. He said if you were using them, stop, clean the heads and use Sony.
Don't shoot the messenger. I only use the Panny tapes for my DVX.
But when I get the A1 I think I would feel real silly if I used the Panasonic tapes after being told not to by a Canon rep who oversees the Service Department.
A Canon rep that oversees service, wow! Well the story will never end because there are Canon reps and other A1 users recomending Panasonic media. Well until Canon or Panasonic actually advertise or recomends certain tapes is writing I guess any good tape will do. On Canon's website it recomends DV media for all their DV cameras, did not say which brand, neither do any other DV camera makers. Why would Canon give us a canon tape that comes with our purchase, then tell us to use Sony brand why don't they just give us a Sony? Real Talk! So it is what it is, if Pana works for ya use Pana, Sony works for ya use Sony. I was all into this which tape to use since I'm a newbie, but now I just purchased Pana 63AMQ so I'm stuck with them.
I certainly wasnt trying to shoot the messenger Kelly, sorry if it seemed that way. But the fact remains that Canon rep (not you) is utterly incorrect. Panasonic tapes ARE dry lube and thus a good fit for the A1.