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@eteam first of all thanks for all your knowledgeable information , i watched the video that you posted ( it is long ) but very interesting
about the d4/d800 hdmi output and what exactly do we get is yet to be known for some reason , no one who had the pre production model didnt bother to try the hdmi output and show us a test or a sample (why? , i have no idea maybe it wasnt available yet in the preproduction models , or their hiding something )

about "reasons why dSLRs-as-video-cameras "suck"" i know from using it the various problems that arises when shooting with dslrs weather canon/nikon/panasonic , but i have to add i have used the Sony NEX-FS100 a couple of times and i cant say its perfect either and in some respects i prefer dslr's
the sony has very strange colors - typical to sony - too saturated , highlight blown out , and very videoish feel to it , the color profiles inside the camera is awafull and very complicated , too much controls to modify (gamma, knee , color mode , color phase , color level , color depth) which confuses and still after digging in couldnt acheive a pleasing natural look, tried also the G-log (S-LOGISH) from frank glencairn
and still got a weird banding and gradiation with a greenish tint
the FS100 is indeed very sharp and i am not knowledgeable enough so say why what does the sensor processes inside ( but the sharpness just seem wrong with a heavy digital feel to it noise looks like very small blocks )
a couple of times when i used the slow motion mode 50p/60p when panning slow or fast the camera outputs lagging in the movement - it was an absolute nightmare !!

its a videocam and not a still cam in its design and has all the controls and connections one needs , but still i would say handling it is a pleasure , enjoying the output , quality and overall image is another thing ( matter of taste , i didnt like it ) and not to mention the SLT sony dslr's which video features are crap
so sony sure has its place mastering the video field and allot of experience but in the cheap solutions they introduce - they are a disappointment ( havent checked the F3 yet )
and i sure hope that the D4/D800 will improve some of the dslr issues and give us a decent Hdmi output we can work with
 
Is the wireless set up on the D4 robust enough for full resolution 1080i data transfer or am I dreaming?
1080i transfer? yes.
In real time? no.
Anyone know if this feature is on the D800 as well?
D4 has a 100BT ethernet port (bandwidth seems to be more like 55Mbits/sec, according to Rob Galbraith), and a USB2 port.
D800 has USB3 port, but no ethernet.

-- Bob Elkind
 
1080i transfer? yes.
In real time? no.

D4 has a 100BT ethernet port (bandwidth seems to be more like 55Mbits/sec, according to Rob Galbraith), and a USB2 port.
D800 has USB3 port, but no ethernet.

-- Bob Elkind

Nuff said. So it seems pipe dreams of real-time full stream to external recorder via ethernet wireless is out. Not sure why Nikon would bother implementing it in the D4 just for remote control of the camera via handhelds? Seems more like gimmickry than useful functionality.
i'm going to give this all a rest and check back after NAB.
Thanks you all and especially BOB and his sage knowledge base in this domain.
 
Not sure why Nikon would bother implementing it in the D4 just for remote control of the camera via handhelds?
Using your iPhone for wireless "tethered" camera control, and network-connected file transfer, are both steps forward from the previous generation. There are a few people, after all, who are using the D4 for... still photography.

-- Bob Elkind
 
Using your iPhone for wireless "tethered" camera control, and network-connected file transfer, are both steps forward from the previous generation. There are a few people, after all, who are using the D4 for... still photography.

-- Bob Elkind

I may not buy it then, Too afraid I'll get sucked back in. 35+ years is enough of still photo woundcha agree?
My brain revolves around time and motion now. So I dunno.
 
I may not buy it then, Too afraid I'll get sucked back in. 35+ years is enough of still photo woundcha agree?
My brain revolves around time and motion now. So I dunno.

Please clarify your reasons. We were discussing wireless live 1080i link from the D800 dSLR, yes? This was your primary interest in this camera, and lack of live wireless is the dealbreaker for you?

-- Bob Elkind
 


I don't think this might be legit. There are so many false labeled D800 & 5DMIII videos done by douchebags that are doing that for view hits. Take it with a grain of salt.

Here's one of the professional productions done on the D800 for the Band EUZEN.. It doesn't show anything like that in the video you posted.

It's in 1080P too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IGMjim-Ieo


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that kind of aliasing/moire is exactly what I expected after watching the HDMI-out test and those horizontal lines in the notebook, switching between green and red instead of staying black - but yes, we'll know a lot better in just a few days...
 
Here's one of the professional productions done on the D800 for the Band EUZEN.. It doesn't show anything like that in the video you posted.

It's in 1080P too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IGMjim-Ieo


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I saw this music video played from an almost uncompressed source clip at a Nikon D800 launch event a couple of weeks ago. It looked much better than this Youtube version.

Btw, I talked with someone involved in making this music video at the Nikon event, and according to him they did not use any external video recorders, so it's all recorded in camera.
 
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I don't think this might be legit. There are so many false labeled D800 & 5DMIII videos done by douchebags that are doing that for view hits. Take it with a grain of salt.

Here's one of the professional productions done on the D800 for the Band EUZEN.. It doesn't show anything like that in the video you posted.

It's in 1080P too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IGMjim-Ieo

That video had me severely worried for a minute, but I'm tempted to agree that it's probably just another fake - the sample videos we've seen so far, don't exhibit anything close to that sort of susceptibility to moire.

Though clearly it has some issues:

d800 moire 1.jpg
 
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... There are so many false labeled D800 & 5DMIII videos done by douchebags that are doing that for view hits.

Yes, that´s often the case - sadly. But it seems to me that this particular guy is not cheating us. He passes on some special infos about this camera in a german video forum and if he wouldn´t own this cam he definitely couldn´t know that:
http://forum.slashcam.de/nikon-d800...l?sid=543e347edeced1991b326d8f041364df#555974 (sorry only in german). But possibly he isn´t a very experienced shooter. So, lets hope that somebody else gives us better footage and messages of the D800...
 
I saw this music video played from an almost uncompressed source clip at a Nikon D800 launch event a couple of weeks ago. It looked much better than this Youtube version.

Btw, I talked with someone involved in making this music video at the Nikon event, and according to him they did not use any external video recorders, so it's all recorded in camera.

That's cool. What size screen did they show it on?

Nikon needs to promote their video mode strong. Now that the 5DMIII's improvements are known, Nikon can take some spot light if their willing to aim for it. I like what I'm seeing with the D800. The fact that was internal codec is good news. Now an external recorder can take it even higher. Looking forward to seeing what's to come from testing over the next few months.

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Yes, that´s often the case - sadly. But it seems to me that this particular guy is not cheating us. He passes on some special infos about this camera in a german video forum and if he wouldn´t own this cam he definitely couldn´t know that:
http://forum.slashcam.de/nikon-d800...l?sid=543e347edeced1991b326d8f041364df#555974 (sorry only in german). But possibly he isn´t a very experienced shooter. So, lets hope that somebody else gives us better footage and messages of the D800...

So many unknowns at this time. We should know more over the next several weeks either way. Hopefully it will tilt towards the good.

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Dpreview.com has a first impressions review of the D800 up. They shot some video too,with original files from camera available for download:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/1690347434/first-impressions-using-the-nikon-d800/4

Just saw those.

Here's new footage from the D800 just uploaded too! One thing that is quite obvious is footage shot with the 85mm 1.4, has minimum rolling shutter/skew issues. It appears Nikon has their cmos readout way faster.

https://vimeo.com/38912704


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