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The resolution of the Nikon D800 looks higher than the 5D mark III in both of the last two videos (trees, hair). And, in the video at the temple, I can't see any moire. If there is moire, it must be on very fine lines, close together. The built-in codec looks like it's holding together well on detail.
 
I've decided to get the MKIII for now and see what happens with the development of a anti-aliasing filter for the D800. The other big concern I have with the D800 is that it might overheat faster than the MKIII (more megapixels = more heat?). The manual mentions that it has an auto shutdown when it overheats and won't switch back on until it cools down. I wouldn't risk just having one body on a shoot unless I was certain that overheating wasn't going to be a problem.
 
steventimothy said:
The resolution of the Nikon D800 looks higher than the 5D mark III in both of the last two videos (trees, hair). And, in the video at the temple, I can't see any moire. If there is moire, it must be on very fine lines, close together. The built-in codec looks like it's holding together well on detail.
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I agree but there's still quite a bit of aliasing in all the videos I've seen that I'm not seeing in the MKIII footage. Softness I can work with, aliasing I can't.
 
squig said:
Softness I can work with, aliasing I can't.
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Please kindly elaborate as they are both 'twins'. Edge effects that are mask-able via DSP filters that are often simply programmed to do the opposite thing, 'alias' soft edges or soften aliased edges.
 
Zephyrnoid said:
Please kindly elaborate as they are both 'twins'. Edge effects that are mask-able via DSP filters that are often simply programmed to do the opposite thing, 'alias' soft edges or soften aliased edges.
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jcs over @ cinema5D has a good technical explanation for it.
 
There seems to be some aliasing on the D800, maybe due to the codec but I haven't seen much moire. The resolution on the D800 seems to be very impressive.

I'll have one in my hands fairly soon so I'll do some tests.
 
real world sample i found on vimeo , i think that might give us more info on the camera issues , unfortunately not recorded in hdmi output but internal https://vimeo.com/39073054
if you look at 1:32 the ups truck on the right has jaggy lines aliasing or something i wonder if this issues would be solved if recorded externally with hdmi output, but other than that IMO looks great , sharp and good DR
 
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t.p. said:
real world sample i found on vimeo , i think that might give us more info on the camera issues , unfortunately not recorded in hdmi output but internal https://vimeo.com/39073054
if you look at 1:32 the ups truck on the right has jaggy lines aliasing or something i wonder if this issues would be solved if recorded externally with hdmi output, but other than that IMO looks great , sharp and good DR
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That particular video you linked, is in 720p. It may have been shot at 1080p, but the vimeo video is in 720p. I wouldn't make any conclusions about aliasing from that one.
 
This video http://vimeo.com/39097915 is very very encouraging compared to the last one. I am thinking if there was no workflow problem for the first one as the difference is staggering. The first one seamed to really lack a field in vertical plane and every straight line had some ugly aliasing. For one moment I was thinking if nikon had not done the line problem in the initial d90.

What seems good also is the DR and rolling shutter.
 
PappasArts said:
Just saw those.

Here's new footage from the D800 just uploaded too! One thing that is quite obvious is footage shot with the 85mm 1.4, has minimum rolling shutter/skew issues. It appears Nikon has their cmos readout way faster.

https://vimeo.com/38912704


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I measured the rolling shutter on my D800 at approximately 14ms for full frame, about the same as the RED Scarlet for its S35 size frame.
 
matthew77 said:
I measured the rolling shutter on my D800 at approximately 14ms for full frame, about the same as the RED Scarlet for its S35 size frame.
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MKII is 25ms. I saw some figures on the MKIII and 1DX which was half of the MKIII a couple of days ago but I can't find them now :badputer:
 
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