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Ha, a typo, but funny. The rumors admin wrote "What number of pixels is 3630 megapixels." Wow!
 
Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p

If that is really the case then Nikon are utterly clueless.....24/25/30P or dont bother.

No PAL frame rates again? Insanity.
 
Spectra said:
Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p

If that is really the case then Nikon are utterly clueless.....24/25/30P or dont bother.

No PAL frame rates again? Insanity.
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Don't freak out, they probably listed the highest frame rate. Nikon's latest DSLR, the D5100, has a 25p mode (just no manual control). I would expect the D800 to be able to do 25p

I'm a little disappointed by the 36MP thing, I would prefer 18MP or so and super good low light performance. This rumour says not to "expect the same high ISO performance as in the D3s." Hopefully, when the images are downsampled to the D3s's 12MP resolution, the noise will appear approximately the same (or better!). It doesn't really matter if they look noisy at 100%.
 
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AndrewGentle said:
Don't freak out, the probably listed the highest frame rate. Nikon's latest DSLR, the D5100, has a 25p mode (just no manual control). I would expect the D800 to be able to do 25p

I'm a little disappointed by the 36MP thing, I would prefer 18MP or so and super good low light performance. This rumour says not to "expect the same high ISO performance as in the D3s." Hopefully, when the images are downsampled to the D3s's 12MP resolution, the noise will appear approximately the same (or better!). It doesn't really matter if they look noisy at 100%.
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36MP = No moire + No extreme low light capabilities

or

18MP = Moire + Extreme low light capabilities

decisions, decisions, decisions....
 
Sounds great, if Nikon follows through, the 36 megapixel D800 should push the price for a used D700 below the $1500 mark, making full-frame affordable once more.
 
I am sure these manufacturers must have a reason, but to be honest, it escapes me. I just set up my tripod and D5100 for a shot a friend wanted to know if we could do. To get what she wants, I need the camera pointing as close to straight down as possible. To get a FOV large enough, the camera is at least 7 feet off the ground and is now pointed to approx. a 5:30 o'clock position. Because of size of the room, there no way to get a ladder behind it all. Without the articulating screen, there's no way to get this shot without a ton of trial and error.

So how come Nikon and Canon refuse to put articulating screens on these beasts ??? There has to be times when these FF shooters could use the benefits of a screen that flips out ???
 
Lee Saxon said:
Because photojournalists and sports photographers buy those cameras. The last thing we want is more flimsy plastic to break.
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If you don't want to use it, there's no law that says you have to. If it was there and you don't want it articulating, when it is brand new you flip it around so the screen is showing and leave it. Problem solved.

The lack of an articulating screen was the crowning blow as to why I didn't buy a D7000. Coming from the video side where articulating screens have been standard, not having one is exceptionally limiting.
 
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I do hope they put better audio on this one. Nikon really is terrible in that regard! The D7000 was an improvement over the D300, but it still sucks. No metering, very difficult to have confidence. I just started using it with a Juiced Link Dt454 to something. The preamp is border line design and function-wise, I will make a separate post for that.
 
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Spectra said:
Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p

If that is really the case then Nikon are utterly clueless.....24/25/30P or dont bother.

No PAL frame rates again? Insanity.
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Lol, on point. Nikon is ahead of the curve in image and completely off base in every other department for video. Even crippling their one advantage in the dslr market, image, with a weak H.264 bit rate, compared to others.
 
I'm tired of such comments. THe "weak H264" on the nikon shows less compression artifacts that other cameras with data rates that are almost double. 45Mbits should look excellent (XDCAM HD is 35mbits for example) and to be fair it looks like poo.
 
macgregor said:
I'm tired of such comments. THe "weak H264" on the nikon shows less compression artifacts that other cameras with data rates that are almost double. 45Mbits should look excellent (XDCAM HD is 35mbits for example) and to be fair it looks like poo.
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That seems like an emotional statement. Although, I agree with you in some aspects. I was a little disappointed in the EX1 footage. Still one can see more compression in dslr video. The D7000 video data rate is not drastically different from the other dslr style cameras, so the image quality will not be significantly different, if even perceivably different, but that is comparing it to first generation dslr's, while the D7000 was released around the same time as the GH2. For what it's worth, the D7000 video looks like poo too.
 
James0b57 said:
That seems like an emotional statement. Although, I agree with you in some aspects. I was a little disappointed in the EX1 footage. Still one can see more compression in dslr video. The D7000 video data rate is not drastically different from the other dslr style cameras, so the image quality will not be significantly different, if even perceivably different, but that is comparing it to first generation dslr's, while the D7000 was released around the same time as the GH2. For what it's worth, the D7000 video looks like poo too.
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Since I used to own 2 canon DHSLRs and 2 nikon d7000 I could tellyou that the compression on the nikon was way better even having a much lower data rate. Since the Nikon is not as spread as the canons in terms of videography, few people seem to notice this fact.
 
macgregor said:
Since I used to own 2 canon DHSLRs and 2 nikon d7000 I could tellyou that the compression on the nikon was way better even having a much lower data rate. Since the Nikon is not as spread as the canons in terms of videography, few people seem to notice this fact.
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But now you are specifically comparing the second generation video Nikon to the first generation video Canons. Which no one is talking about right now, but you. The 5D/7D/60D/T2-3 all suffer from bad H.264 compression. The GH1 suffers the same. The GH2 has set a new standard, but they all still have a lot of room for improvement. The Nikon has one advantage in the dslr market, and that is color rendition, and that is almost completely nullified by the amount of H.264 compression. In addition sony and panasonic have s35 offerings available, further alienating Nikon as a viable cinema camera in the market.

If you only compare Nikon and Canon: I also own D7000 and Canon. I prefer the image from the nikon, but prefer the workings of the canon. There, I am comparing the nikon and canon. But since both get useable images, sometimes it comes down to ergonomics, options, and what is popular.


I remember a while back you posted and alluded the D7000 had more dynamic range than the Canon's, yet the Zacuto 2011 shootout test suggests that is not true.
 
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DeterminedFilmmaker said:
Is it confirmed and what price will it be exactly.
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I'd expect both D800 & 5dmk3 to go much higher than their predecessors. Today we have a "semi-pro" (well, for whatever it's worth) APS-C market that has changed the game regarding pricing on the market as a whole. People will pay anything for the follow-ups of the two most popular DSLRs in the world.

Looking forward to picking up a D700 when everyone gets rid of theirs.
 
James0b57 said:
  • Excellent video quality, better than D3s
  • Video modes: 1080p/30/25/24 and 720p/60/30/25/24
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If it has the quality of video it should (it's freakin v3.0 for Nikon now, for pete's sake) then this may just stop me from abandoning Nikon and getting the 5Dm3 when it comes out.

I have my fingers crossed but I'm not too hopeful, tbh. I really don't think Nikon has a clue when it comes to video.
 
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