CS5 Launch Event... Ppro silence

Something is wrong. DVCproHD is an easy codec to handle even for a laptop.

The Black magic card should make things even more fluid. I handle 2 hour Film on the timeline and 12 hrs of files with no problem, no rendering and fast response in a Black Magic timeline, no mater what resolution or framerate..

2.66 Quad and 8GB of RAM - but as I said, even every decent laptop could this - with your machine it should fly.

Do a new setup with Win7 64bit - make a clean new installation and enjoy editing.

Frank
 
I just ordered CS5, so when it comes I'll give it a clean install and update all the service packs and drivers.

Collin
 
Poeple often ask me why my machines perform so good.

In a nutshell:

1. Selected components - board and cpu = INTEL, make sure you get the right RAM
2. Oversized power supply
3. Hand massaged System, dedicated drives for system/software, storage and video
4. Install only the absolut minimum of software you need
5. No physical connection to the internet on a editing workstation.

Frank
 
Postmaster said:
Poeple often ask me why my machines perform so good.

In a nutshell:

1. Selected components - board and cpu = INTEL, make sure you get the right RAM
2. Oversized power supply
3. Hand massaged System, dedicated drives for system/software, storage and video
4. Install only the absolut minimum of software you need
5. No physical connection to the internet on a editing workstation.

Frank
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Would it be best to uninstall production premium CS4 before installing Production Premium CS5? And I have my OS on the original C drive, and I put my NLE software on a 10K RPM 300gb Velociraptor, and my work off transcoded footage from my 2tb G-Tech, did I put things in the right place?
 
OS and NLE Software can both live on C
Use one huge fast disk or better a RAID for Video files only
and dedicate one disk for everything else - project files, sounds, music, pictures, andwhatnot.

Frank
 
scapsinger said:
What I can say is that I've been using Premiere Pro exclusively for over 8 years, and I've never had any trouble getting my editing jobs done (for a profit, even). :)
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Hi, dont mean to sound accusative, so please please please, dont read this wrong. You have also had the most sound advice i have recently read about premiere, however, for the record, premiere pro has'nt been around for 8 years. You might want to clarify that for your own posterity. Im sure you mean premiere. As you know, there was a HUGE difference.

(although I still have a pinnacle DC50 card on Premiere 5.1/Win XP, works great!! (believe it or not, There is a german guy still writing drivers for this darn Pinnacle DC50 nostalgia box)

I too have been editing on Adobe for close to 11 years, I left for AvidLand at Premiere 6.0, ... came back around version 2.0 of Premiere Pro and never looked back.

PPro=One tool to do so many things with, sure beats having to have a dedicated tool for every function/move I want to make in the edit line. Avid is great, but very cumbersome for 85% of the editing we do here.

Waiting for my CS5 to arrive. Darn FedEx drivers just HAVE to take Sundays off,... What an inconvenience!!! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) just kidding.
 
Postmaster said:
Poeple often ask me why my machines perform so good.

In a nutshell:

1. Selected components - board and cpu = INTEL, make sure you get the right RAM
2. Oversized power supply
3. Hand massaged System, dedicated drives for system/software, storage and video
4. Install only the absolut minimum of software you need
5. No physical connection to the internet on a editing workstation.

Frank
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I agree with most of this, however my editing system is also my personal desktop/gaming system and has an Internet connection. I've also never had an Intel-branded motherboard (current one is ASUS).

First, good components. Second, keep your damn system UPDATED! It's easier for Mac users to do so since everything is controlled in-house, but Windows 7 is a great step in that direction since Windows Update usually does a bang-up job of finding new drivers. I'd say that keeping up-to-date with anti-virus, OS patches, and driver updates have let me enjoy a trouble-free PC experience for many, many years (save for when hardware goes bad, which can happen to anyone).
 
hi all,

im in desperate need of some advise please!

i have the HMC151 and have just purchased the CS5 production premium which as im sure you all know includes after effects and premier pro.
i normally use vegas pro 9 which edits my footage straight from the camera without any problems but i prefer to use premier pro as it integrates well with after effects via the dynamic link. up until today ive been using CS4 but found it so frustrating having to change my footage to cineform in order to edit.........and even then it couldnt handle a simple transition without freezing up etc.
so when i saw the vids on CS5's mercury engine and its ability to handle multiple files that even included colour correction etc then i knew i had to purchase it as i thought it would be fantastic!

however, im not noticing any difference in performance what so ever.........it can just about handle a single layer of AVCHD footage. multiple layers, effects, transitions etc etc is a non starter as playback just comes to a halt :( ive also tried multiple layers that are cineform but it makes no difference......in fact AVCHD actually seems to play smoother!

but ive just noticed this thread and realised that it may be my graphics card that is causing the issue.........i wasnt aware that the mercury engine would only work if used with a certain graphic card! doh!

here is my PC spec:-


i5 750@2.67 GHz processor
8 gig memory
1500 gig hard drive
2 x ATI Radeon HD 4650 graphic cards (cards are in crossfire........1024mb memory each)
windows 7 premium 64bit OS


now i know that its not the most amazing spec PC but id still say its not too bad! lol it runs vegas just fine (even with effects etc) but anything adobe on it runs as fast as a 1 legged hamster thats stuck in treacle!

so what i want to know is, will the GeForce GTX 285 be a massive improvement over the 2 x 4650 cards i currently have?

ive spent soooooo much money trying to get my footage to work properly on premier pro and im really starting to get quite depressed about the whole thing. i purchased the camera, then vegas, then CS4 production premium, then a new PC, then cineform, then plug ins and now CS5 production premium..........around £8500 so far! just so i can try and edit my footage!

so now it looks like i will have to spend more money on a graphics card too!

can you guys please confirm that this card is the correct one that is authorised by adobe to give the mercury engine a jump start:-

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1198659&source=froogle

and will it make a significant difference?

any help will be extremely appreciated!

cheers,

scott



ps........can anyone tell me why to purchase CS5 production premium from the UK adobe store it cost me £1850, but the exact same product in the american store works out at nearly £700 cheaper! is that just a xenophobic rip off??

when i asked adobe customer services why the USA price was around £700 cheaper than the UK price they told me it was due to the shipping costs!!! even though its a download!



pps........and can anyone tell me why it costs £50 more for the download version of CS5 production premium compared to the disk version!? surely it should be the other way round! lol
 
hi mate,

can you please confirm that the card in the link is definitely the correct card?

cheers,

scott
 
cheers mate :)

sorry to be a pain, but ive just noticed that the site sells 3 cards with that model number:-

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-...GPU-648MHz-Shader-1476MHz-240-Cores-2x-DL-DVI

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-...z-GDDR3-GPU-648-MHz-Shader-1476-MHz-240-Cores

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-...clock-55nm-2484MHz-GDDR3-GPU-669MHz-240-Cores

does it make a difference what one i buy?


they all look quite different to the one on the nvidia site too!

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_285_us.html
 
No, they all start with the reference spec and then slap their label on it. A few may be overclocked slightly or have different amounts of RAM onboard, but that won't have anything to do with whether or not the Mercury Engine will support it.
 
hi mate,

yeah i noticed that too.........but i cant see why it would make a difference. whether its AE and PP purchased separately or as part of the suite its still the exact same products isnt it??
 
Hey MagicCat (RE: your incredibly inflammatory post...j/k)

You are correct, Premiere Pro came out in 2003. When I started working in Premiere it was Premiere 6.5 (which was actually quite solid...some people still use it). I started my editing "career" on Final Cut Pro because that's what "everyone" was using at the time and that was what was available. When I wanted to cut on my own time, I installed Premiere 6.5 and the rest is history.

A bit of a confession...my first install of Premiere 6.5 was pirated, but I suppose in my own defense I was a bit of a dummy and didn't really think I was doing anything wrong. When Premiere Pro 1.0 came out, I bought in for good. Don't want to start a holier-than-thou thing here, but I can affirm I have had nothing but fully paid software across the board ever since. I make money off this stuff, so Adobe has earned my dollar, and pirated software in general probably cost me more headaches back then anyway (didn't work right, couldn't update, viruses, etc).

But anyway, yes - sorry for the confusion on the version history.
 
So I have the trial installed along with the Cineform Neo v5 beta. Five layers of video, all but the bottom layer have effects, and all also have been scaled to do Picture in Picture. NO supported video card. Vista 64, 8 gigs of RAM, and my CPU is an Intel Q6600 quad core 2.4 GHz... so it's not the latest or greatest or particularly fast.

Butter. Absolutely butter. It's not until a little ways into it that there is any noticeable slowdown playing back realtime, but it's not that bad... especially considering the number of layers and effects.

However, I just tried to see how long it would take to render that out, and it crashed. I'm going to assume its a bug in the Cineform beta
 
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