CS4 just WON AVCHD editing!!

Okay -- Adobe has robbed yet another night from my life.

The bottom line -- there are issues.

In a general sense the Premiere/After Effects AVCHD workflow works -- meaning it looks like everything is where it's supposed to be and nothing locks up or crashes.

Unfortunately, what the Premiere/After Effects workflow is actually putting out is erratic. It skips frames for no apparent reason (yes, I've triple checked my environment, disabled all security, etc.) and has also invented a "twitch" (you know, the plug-in) like effect, meaning frames jump around.

So -- it works for about 98% of a project -- but there are consistently errors/issues with every single test project. I know of no professional who can sell production services with "only a few" noticeable glitches.

On the other hand -- transcoding footage from the HMC to intermediary codecs like DVCPROHD or Canopus HQ has been, in hundreds of tests, flawless.

So, although deliriously happy users will be singing praises to Adobe for the moment, sooner or later the truth is going to come out -- the truth being that AVCHD in Premiere is full of imaginative and original glitches.

It is with a heavy heart and sadness that I report -- for serious projects, yes, I'll still be transcoding to an intermediary codec.
 
To follow up on my previous grim report regarding "native" AVCHD editing in the newly updated Premiere Pro CS4.1 -- below is a link to one of the test videos I produced yesterday that kindly includes two of the glitches I encountered.

LINK: http://www.vimeo.com/4910090
 
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AGMedia said:
Okay -- Adobe has robbed yet another night from my life.

It skips frames for no apparent reason and has also invented a "twitch" (you know, the plug-in) like effect, meaning frames jump around.
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This is an issue with Vegas native AVCHD editing as well. I could render a minute long clip and everything looks good, then right at the end it goes all batsh*t.
 
AGMedia said:
To follow up on my previous grim report regarding "native" AVCHD editing in the newly updated Premiere Pro CS4.1 -- below is a link to one of the test videos I produced yesterday that kindly includes two of the glitches I encountered.

LINK: http://www.vimeo.com/4910090
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I would imagine that you looked at the final footage before vimeo.
Just wondered if this was a vimeo re-code issue or a premiere issue.

I had similiar happen when my sync program tries to sync mail during an encode.
Had to disable that (yahoo sync mail)
 
Green Hornet said:
Mr Green,
In my version, I go to New Sequence, then tab over to General, and under editing mode, you have your AVC-INTRA.
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Yes, but no. Because yes it looks like you can set up the sequence, but whenever I try to import an AVC-I file it says "unsupported format or damaged file." So I haven't figured a way to actually get any AVC-I files into 4.1...
 
I can confirm the frame jump by agmedia.. tried a simple render out.

you can see in the ram preview which frame will jump and when you render it out, the jump exists.
 
Barry_Green said:
Yes, but no. Because yes it looks like you can set up the sequence, but whenever I try to import an AVC-I file it says "unsupported format or damaged file." So I haven't figured a way to actually get any AVC-I files into 4.1...
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I downloaded some footage, and tried everything to put it into CS4, having the same results as you. Some one from Adobe said they were not planning to directly support it for some time.

I was able to convert it to cineform, and edit the file that way in cs4.
You have to have the AVC-I codec installed to do that as it is not natively supported in HDlink without installing the codec.
 
AGMedia said:
To follow up on my previous grim report regarding "native" AVCHD editing in the newly updated Premiere Pro CS4.1 -- below is a link to one of the test videos I produced yesterday that kindly includes two of the glitches I encountered.

LINK: http://www.vimeo.com/4910090
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Don't mean to get off topic, but how did you get that look on the wheat field and sky... really beautiful...
 
denzlite: My thanks for your kind words. That's not something of which I'm proud -- and I wish everything worked with Premiere so none of this would be necessary.

The appearance of that video is the result of quick things thrown at the clips in Adobe After Effects for testing purposes. S-Curve ("contrast"), photo filter, and I think an unsharp mask. In terms of capture -- there was a Hoya Circular Polarizer Filter on the HMC -- and that tends to improve the look of the sky.

The good news is that at this early stage I think everything is working with After Effects. At this point it seems all the AVCHD problems are coming from Premiere.

Again, thanks for your kindness. Perhaps if all the members of this forum join hands and pray -- Adobe will get around to fixing things within twenty-four months.
 
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Barry_Green said:
Can't seem to find any AVC-Intra support though...
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Yeah, while Adobe was showing some stuff that had AVC Intra at NAB, apparently they either didn't complete the development in time for this release or they intended to save it for later anyway.

The Adobe guys sure talked it up a bit over the last few months though, so you would have thought you'd see it in there. Instead, we're getting "AVC Intra? In Premeire? Hrm, I don't remember that conversation."

"These are not the droids you are looking for..."
 
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