C200: CFast compatability - Cards that support VPG-130

So it sounds like Angelbirds for the Europeans and EgoDisk for the Americans? I wouldn't use any card not certified VPG130 with the C200, it just isn't worth the risk if you are under the gun, shooting once in a lifetime subjects as I mostly do.
 
avian said:
Because The c200 uses ex-fat as formatting system there is a issue with larger volumes and or cards with large amount of files.
With ex-fat the camera needs to read the entire format-table into memory to know were it is able to write new footage to.
With the 512GBcards the c200 sometimes times-out during the reading of the format-table and reports "no-card" or "no files on card" scary right?
However when you power-cycle the camera,turn it off and on again, clears the memory and usually the card registers as normal and your good to go.
It can also happen with 256cards but less likely because the camera more often has enough time/memory to process the format-table.
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Have you ever ran into a problem with this on a shoot or has cylcing the camera off and on always fixed it? I've got some longer interview based projects coming up and I am toying with the idea of buying a 512GB card and shooting them in raw.
 
chris f said:
Have you ever ran into a problem with this on a shoot or has cylcing the camera off and on always fixed it? I've got some longer interview based projects coming up and I am toying with the idea of buying a 512GB card and shooting them in raw.
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In testing once recognized the card performed without problems ,only when changing cards you sometimes need to "cycle".
I would have no problems trusting the 512GB cards on long shoots.

However At the moment I'm more than happy using the UHD mp4 until premiere pro starts accepting rawlight natively without transcoding.
For my upcoming raw project I'll be using the 256GB cards as changing every 34 minutes is of no consequence to me.
 
chris f said:
From Twitter this morning:

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In the comments they said they're hoping to have the 1TB card "C200 Friendly" as well, but aren't sure about it.
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Nice. I was considering buying another 256GB (I already have 2x from EgoDisk and 1 from Lexar), but if they come out with a 512GB that I know works, I may grab that instead...
 
I just wanted to add for Angelbird owners that the Ursa Mini Match Pack should be compatible with the C200 and right now you can get it for just under $700. I know that's still more than the Ego Disk cards but figured I'd pass it along. FWIW, I have the C200 match pack from Angelbird and it's worked great so far.

PS- I messaged Angelbird on Facebook to confirm compatibility.
 
johnniebutters said:
I've yet to run into any issues with my Delkin 256GB CFast cards. Highly underrated in this thread.
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Same here with Transcend CF600 256 and some Biwin 256 cheapo, I have dozens of hours on them without any hickups, it must be magic :) And I've paid less than $400 for both.

As I've said in this thread already, both of the cards are going more than 200 MB/s constantly, I've run them for hours in Blackmagic Speed test and AJA test, makes no sense not to work at 130 MB/s..
 
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Interesting, neither are VPG-130 certified. I can only relate my experience with the SD cards from my C100 MKI. They were Transcend Gold UHS 3 Class 10 cards. They were perfect for years in the C100MKI and worked for months perfectly in the C200. Until they didn't, in the middle of a big, once in a lifetime interview when I received the "Buffer overrun" warning on the C200 slot A. Luckily I was shooting with dual cards so the B card still worked but that experience spooked me. I retired the Transcend cards to my 80D and bought the proper, approved cards, Sandisk Extremes (256GB) for my C200 and it has been flawless since then with shooting .MP4s.

I can't say much, I only use the inexpensive EgoDisk CFast 2.0 cards in my C200 for RAW shooting. So far, after months of usage, no issues. These are VPG-130 rated cards. But they are not approved cards. So whose to say my non-approved cards are any better than your non-approved cards? We all take our chances I guess? I will say that there is more to it than merely read and write speeds though, there are handshake, recognition and buffer issues at play there as well so just because your card is fast enough, it doesn't make it bulletproof with Cinema RAW Light and the C200. So far, fingers crossed, the EgoDisk are killing it. 4K 60p no problem.
 
Has anyone been using the 512 ego disk successfully? what card reader do you advise with this card?
is the elite worth it or stick with pro version of card?
 
johnniebutters said:
Why has nobody gone the SSD route? It's a realistic option now and when I head to Japan to shoot a full feature, I can't imagine swapping CFast Cards constantly. 512GB for $700 is insane!
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Because I don't want an SSD, cable and power situation Velcroed to the side of my camera when I am hanging on for dear life on the front of a race boat getting ocean spray everywhere?
 
puredrifting said:
Because I don't want an SSD, cable and power situation Velcroed to the side of my camera when I am hanging on for dear life on the front of a race boat getting ocean spray everywhere?
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And to add, it's an unsupported configuration and could break or fail in the field. Yes, the cost of CFast cards is outrageous but Egodisk and Angelbird are providing proven, cost effective solutions. Plus they can be rented for lower costs (check your local rental house).

Storage is the last thing I would take a chance on during a shoot.
 
I bought a CFAST to SATA cable and didn't have much luck getting it to work. (Wasn't a kit designed to do that). I know there is a little bracket on the bottom of the door that presses a sensor or something because it becomes engaged giving a ready light before the door closes. But I've given up on the idea of SSDs. I have an Egodisk, a Prograde, and a Sandisk (128 for emergency use) and they've all worked fine. I have 1 hr 16 minutes and for me that works. I can offload pretty fast.

Feature film and gaffers tape on the side of the camera to save a few bucks sounds like a paradox to me.
 
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