Canon HV20

Kholi said:
Sean you got any footage from your HC3 adventure?
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Kholi, I've shot a few things, but nothing really worth your time. I will try to pull together some footage this weekend.
 
AuditoryVisuals said:
You can always edit in FCP, you just can't remove the pull down. If you shoot 24p, it is recorded with a 2:3 pull down but within a 60i stream. So, if your version of FCP supports HDV 1080i60, you will be able to edit natively.
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Oh crap I got it, I got it now... boy do I feel dumb, I must have missed the part about pulldown, I thought FCP couldn't edit native HDV and I was goin nuts over here, but the discussion was about removing the 2:3, sorry about that AV still your help was invaluable.
Anyway, as you said, there is still the upgrade to FCP 6 to look forward to:dankk2:
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Barry
does that mean this camera is faking some or part of its hi def image recording compared to the HVX?
Thank for a reply
Bruce
 
Bruce Morgan said:
Barry
does that mean this camera is faking some or part of its hi def image recording compared to the HVX?
Thank for a reply
Bruce
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No, why would you think that?

2:3 pulldown is a valid method to use; the HVX and DVX can both do it as well. The only thing is that it makes it a tad more difficult on the editing system to reverse that, which is why 2:3:3:2 (aka 24pA) pulldown was invented. 24pA is superior for editing, but Vegas and EDIUS can both deal with 2:3 pulldown. FCP apparently can't yet (from HDV footage, or from HVX 1080 footage).
 
Barry, what do ya mean about that FCP can't deal with 108024pA? Just wanting to clarify, as I can capture directly into FCP 108024pA and edit it just fine. I tried it yesterday.

Am I missing something?
 
FCP does 1080/24pA, but it doesn't do 1080/24p (2:3 pulldown) as far as I know. I'd be glad to find out I was wrong, so let me know if that's the case.
 
the HV20 has a 1/2.7 inch chip and a f/1.8 lens...
the HVX200 has a 1/3 inch chip and a f/2.8 lens...

does this mean that the HV20 will have almost half the depth of field as the HVX200?
it's got a larger chip (almost a millimeter larger!!!) and a wider lens. i hope I'm right.
 
the HVX has a F1.6 lens. its 2.8 when youre Zoomed all the way in to 55mm.

Though, theoretically yes it will have a shallower DOF just because of the lenses.
 
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it can also shoot "true 16x9" SD 480p at 60fps, 48fps and 24fps


well actualy 960x540p at 60fps = 1080 60i HDV
and the 48fps in 24p mode. if you think about it all the 60i HDV cameras can shoot 480p
 
Depends on the focal length of the lens, and the field of view. The HVX has a max. zoom of 55mm, the HV20 has 61mm. With the slightly larger chip that means that the image size will probably be about the same size at full zoom and equal distance, meaning probably 10% shallower depth of field on the HV20.

You're talking about a chip size difference of only 10%, and a zoom reach difference of only 10%, so don't expect a noticeable difference in DOF. However, if that zoom were to be a constant 1.8 instead of variable, then that could end up contributing to a shallower DOF potential on the HV20. Is the HV10's lens a constant 1.8?
 
Maybe; depends on whether the extender causes a light loss (lower effective aperture). If no light loss, and you have adequate room to back up and use the longer effective focal length, then yes you should be able to get the illusion of shallower DOF by using a teleconverter.
 
Actually, reading through the HV20 instruction manual answers the question about the lens. It's f/1.8 on the wide end, and f/3.0 at full tele.
 
Japanese HV20's available now on the world's biggest auction site. Looks like you can set the menu to ENGLISH. I'm waiting till April.
 
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