The view finder is great, like the Varicam's and it runs about the same in price.....all in all, having the camera on my shoulder it really felt right...balanced, very comfortable VF (with lots of adjustments) with my face tucked against the body......pricing - it is exactly where it should be given the features, build, and the pictures it produces. I know on many of the different blogs, the DSLR budget crowd is crowing about the price but they are being unrealistic..
Don, really?....
Delusional.....god, I'm using that word a lot.
You are missing the point...I'm very in-touch with what is working here in town and I have been doing this for a long time. It is in my best interest to know all the equipment, know what clients are asking for, know what is being required, know what is going to be the best, overall choice for our clients given the parameters they are working under.....and so you understand, We want to sell something that goes out the door and doesn't come back (has no issues, works every time, and doesn't all apart). I care about the clients I/we have otherwise, I/we would not have a large return clientele.
Basically, it has everything that is needed to be an "A" camera on features, let alone narrative TV and high end docs. As I has said, it feels well balanced and very comfortable on the shoulder and not too heavy. The fact that it has ProRes in addition to the XF AVC codec is huge in my book......the right codec for the right job...plus the CODEX recorder option to handle the RAW (a standard in the industry at the top level). Since we have not seen the the working production prototype, I'm very excited to see if it goes to an even higher ISO that the C300 MK II. On the original C300, you could go to 3200ISO and it was clean as a whistle, 6400 and the noise came up a tad but Canon makes the noise move so it's not noise, it looks like film grain...in fact when you went up to 20,000ISO, the moving noise looked equal to medium speed 16mm film. On the C300 MK II, 6400ISO was the new 3200ISO....what I'm hoping for even a higher clean ISO on the the new C700 chip....And, of course, Canon's warm & creamy base DNA look...
You are looking at specs regarding the Ursa & the Terra, both quite new at the camera making game. There have been a fair amount of issues with the Ursa (magenta, FNP) and the Terra is not really even out yet. You are referring to body pricing without looking at a fully functional price. The Ursa cannot hold a candle to the Canon low light capability which translates into big savings in lighting alone....every time you shoot. As history tells us, the Raven will be much more money once you add all the needed parts. RED has done a great job growing, learning and implementing improvements from their start with the RED 1.
I suppose it's important to keep in mind that when someone says a camera is over-priced, or under-specced, they can only mean "for them". It is their opinion. And sure, you can compare what a camera offers and the price it offers it for, to other cameras. Again, these comparisons are also infused with varying amounts of subjectivity, preferences and opinions. So no need to argue about whether someone is wrong or whatever else.
Also, it may be fun to speculate about how well it will do in the market, or what effect it may have on the industry, but let's keep it in the spirit of fun.
It's a new camera released by Canon. They don't owe anything to anyone. If you like it you like it. If you don't, you don't. No big deal. But no need to put anyone down or create negativity around it.
Personally, I think it has a place in the industry. Traditional form-factor will help use on shoulder and rigging for scripted/studio work. Respectable codec will deliver flexible enough images...specially for folks who like the "Canon look" (compressed warm tones and greener blues). Has decent enough outputs and inputs. I haven't looked into gen-lock, time-code or other features yet so I cannot comment.
I'm wonder whether it will be a big seller amongst owner-ops, but I think it could do well in the rental market. Plus, I could totally be wrong and it can prove to be an owner-op favorite.
Canon stuff is always sold at a higher price-point. Personally, I'm just glad to have another tool that I can use to help get a new gig please a client or tell a story with budget and schedule in mind. If the rental price is too close to Alexa, I'll choose Alexa (unless I need 4k, at which point, I can now choose between C700, Reds, F5/55/65, Varicam, etc...). But if the rental price point is somewhere close to Red Scarlet W, F5, or even FS7, and it is for fast turn-around work that cannot afford a color-timing session and is well served by the "canon look", I'll shoot the crap out of that C700!
But for now, the camera has barely been announced. I'm gonna take some time to see whether and how it fits within the range of options available for rent. As far as owning one, I probably won't. But if you will, pleeeeeease share your thoughts and experiences. Super excited to hear them
This post is aimed at bringing back a bit more civility to the conversation, not to acuse or shame anyone personally. We all can get carried away on the forums and it's totally understandable. Not something to be ashamed of. But maybe let's step back a bit and return with cool heads
