Canon C100 output
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Menno Mennes
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Here you can find all information about the C100 http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2012/eos_c100_whatsnew.shtml?categoryId=22
Has anyone actually recorded the C100 HDMI output and compared it to a matching C300 file?
Tim Nitsch
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It's hard enough to get regular footage from the C100.
People are posting reviews of the body of the camera (which is nice) but they won't even talk about, much less actually show samples of the footage, probably because of NDA restrictions.
Hopefully we'll get some love soon.
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philiplipetz
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There are only four prototype bodies making the rounds of dealers, and each gets half an hour with the camera, no filming. When the preproduction samples are done we will get another round of films. However, I remember the XF100 shipping, I got the third one made, before real footage hit. So Canon does not always wait to do well produced films. they knw they are in a race with the BMCC, and on BMCuser and the Blckmagic Design comoany forum some people are already talking about switching to the C100 if it ships in reasonable quantity first. It would pay Canon to drop the C100 as quickly as possible even if that meant before demo films. It is not like we cannot guess the performance of the camera with an external recorder, it will be identical to a C300 with an external recorder. Enough info for many people,especially people who havehadthe pleasure of working with the C300.
Liam Hall
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In theory identical pictures, certainly there looks to be more functionality (auto exposure/focus) and better ergonomics (lighter, better positioning of buttons, integrated monitor). Time will tell...
Menno Mennes
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Somewhere I read that te EVF is not adjustable and is half the size of the C300 EVF...
philiplipetz
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EVF is not adjustable but the LCD is better positioned, it no longer requires you to add the XLR handle so stripped handheld work is much easier, as is crane/slider/jib work.
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Liam Hall
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Yep - the EVF on the C300 isn't the most useful either. It's one of my major complaints. It's got several design faults; an operator shouldn't have to take their eye away from the EVF to check exposure or access any other features they might need, the diopter sucks and the rubber eye-piece should be left in the bag.
cowpunk52
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Eh, I disagree. I think the C300's EVF is really nice, far better than most I've used on any other camera. It's big and sharp as hell; easy to pull focus on. I wish I could have scopes in the EVF, though, but dual zebras are usually enough fro me to judge exposure accurately. I've used the camera so much I can operate controls with my eyes closed, and the diopter works great for me since I have terrible vision without my glasses. The rubber eye piece I leave in my bag only if I know I'm not going to use the EVF, but if I am I find it necessary to block out excess light. I'll be picking up a chamois cover for it soon, though. Being able to swivel up for me to look down into is very handy for stabilisation, too, I find. It would be nice if there was a way to close it from sun within the EVF, I'm constantly paranoid I'm going to lose the cap or forget to put it on and have burn-in.
The EVF in the C100 is similar to what you'll find in the XF100 cameras, which I think is good for framing and decent for checking exposure in bright shooting conditions, but I wouldn't want to pull focus on it.
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philiplipetz
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The EVF in the C100 has much higher resolution than the XF100 EVF, but both are tiny. Never used the XF100 EVF except in bright light where the LCD was useless without a hood.
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Onthat note, the c100 evf doesn't seem to come with an eyepiece and I wonder about its usability in sunlight.
Liam Hall
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Maybe I was being a little unkind. It is sharp, but seriously, it should show the scopes.
Me too, but that kind of proves my point, in that it is only through many hours of use that you develop the muscle memory to be able to move around the controls quickly. I still reserve particular hatred for both the function button and menu scroll wheel neither of which function or scroll as I'd like. It's interesting to note that Canon have shifted a few things around on the C100 - most notably the ND.
I like my C300, I like it a lot, but I'm not blind to its design flaws, as I'm sure neither are Canon.
EFF on C300 is absolute joke as it is on other cameras like F3.
Anybody coming from Broadcast used to 2-3" vf finds el-cheepo C300 vf (and other) unusable especially on Large sensor cameras. Thats why optional EVFs are so popular now. Decent optional EVF like new Alphatron is an important part of any High End camera...after all F3 or C300 or worse C500 is not Z1.
"It is not like we cannot guess the performance of the camera with an external recorder, it will be identical to a C300 with an external recorder."
That is what I presume, and if that is in fact the case, the C100 sales are definitely going to cut into the C300's. Unless the C300 features are worth an extra $9500 dollars (and they are for lot of professionals), I can see the C100 become the go-to camera for a large chunk of the production world. You can buy (2) C100's + (2) Atmos Ninja 2's and several SSD's for recording for the price of a single C300.
That is what I presume, and if that is in fact the case, the C100 sales are definitely going to cut into the C300's. Unless the C300 features are worth an extra $9500 dollars (and they are for lot of professionals), I can see the C100 become the go-to camera for a large chunk of the production world. You can buy (2) C100's + (2) Atmos Ninja 2's and several SSD's for recording for the price of a single C300.
philiplipetz
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That's exactly what our team manger decided.
BTW you do not need SSDs to record with a Ninja2, standard HDDs are a low cost alternative for situations without sudden g forces. Then you simply store them as backups at pretty much the same cost as copying them to a backp drive, but without the hassle and staff time involved in copying.
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Jim Martin
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I posted this on other threads and if your use the search function, you would find it......HDMI is a standard....4-2-2 color 8 bit with audio...all coming out of the C100.
Jim Martin
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cowpunk52
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Agreed here; it's not the most elegant solution and takes some getting used to.