Camera rumors for 2016?
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Mitch Gross
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I know of at least one announcement that had originally been planned for NAB'16 that is now planned for IBC'16. We'll see if that happens. I also know of what was originally planned to be two models of a camera design (different styles & features for different markets) that looks to now have been somewhat combined into one. That one may or may not be at IBC, but I think it likely. I know of another that looks pretty darn certain, and one last one that's a "your guess is as good as mine," meaning that this particular manufacturer has always been rather elusive in its communication -- at least weith me.
Of course, all of this could change. I can tell you that several years back there was a camera that did make it to announcement at a major show. The decision to announce came the DAY BEFORE, and someone had to hop on an international flight just to get the prototype to the convention hall in time. So yeah, these things are not always exactly set in stone.
OK, that should give y'all a bunch to chew on for a bit.
It's a Canon Big Boy camera - AMIRA competitor
December 2016, but realistically in larger volume Jan/Feb '17.
It won't be cheap, trust me.
There'll be an announced date of delivery; then an actual date of delivery (about a year later); then the firmware update delivery to eliminate any glitches present in the first series of deliveries (12-18 months later); then a V2 announcement 12-18 months later. Rinse and repeat.
PS. The bankruptcy notice announcements are expected in mid product cycle. Make your reservations early.
This is all interesting as I am thinking of buying a 4K camcorder coming off a Sony EX1r but want to buy a camera with technology that wont be immediately obsolete. I was very seriously considering the Sony FS7 for the money and picture quality...then Canon lowered their price on the C300mkII. Although it is 4 thousand over the FS7, it got me thinking of other models...and then I ran across the Sony F5 with a promo bundle that makes the cost cheaper than an FS7 (if you were to subtract the other items in the package). that camera at least has some upgrade options like the RAW recorder add-on and the option to swap out the CMOS sensor making it an F55.
So a question is why did Sony come out with this Promo Bundle? Is it headed for a new model, closeout, or just to compete with other cameras dropping prices?????
So a question is why did Sony come out with this Promo Bundle? Is it headed for a new model, closeout, or just to compete with other cameras dropping prices?????
Yeah I reckon the FS7 was so extremely popular it was stealing a lot of the F5 thunder, thus they've brought down the price of the F5.
Apparently there is not going to be a new CineAlta camera in 2016?
Ah, correction, just promised there is no new CineAlta cameras at NAB this year:
http://www.studiodaily.com/2016/03/sony-promises-no-new-cinealta-production-camera-at-nab/
http://www.4kshooters.net/2016/04/0...nab-but-there-will-be-other-new-sony-cameras/
Soooo... that was of course true, as NAB has come and passed.
Got a good chunk of the year left, and somehow I wouldn't be too surprised if we see an F5, F55, or F65 replacement in 2016.
Or maybe even another FSx camera! You never know what surprise with Sony with the rapid release of their cameras, although their professional range doesn't come out quite the same crazy hectic pass that their consumer level cameras come out at.
I'm really surprised we haven't seen another NEX-VG series camera come out recently from Sony.
Arguably a Sony FS5 with a Odyssey 7Q+ in raw is a close competitor, and similar ish in price.
FS5 has quite a lot of advantages over the BMD UM4.6K
That depends on GH5 and new 5D.
If Gh5 brings what it should (RAW, 15 stops DR, Image stabilisation, decent autofocus, excellant photo etc...), then URSAS and such will be obsolete! Which is exactly what big guys want to do to indies if they wanna keep their market (Red, BM, digital bolex, CION are class enemies of Sony, Canon, Panasonic...).
If not, new Canon 5D will take all the prize with little to no upgrades (4K, DR of 11 stops, shitty fixed screen; Magic Lantern will hack it so maybe RAW might happened in new 5D).
All in all, C300 will go down in price for sure (around 4-7K).
Its funny how people don't get a clue from 4K slash in pricing of C300...
You don't cut your price in 4000$ just like that overnight do you? What would happen if your income goes down 25% overnight, how would your life change?
Yet Canon can afford such move without a blink. How come? To me that clearly say that the real price of C300 II is in 3-4K range. (If BM can make profit with their pricing can you imagine how much is cheaper for canon to produce C300 then what they say it costs?)
The only reason C300 is not priced 3-4k is because there is no competitors! No DSLR that its threatning them. But once Canon 5D 4K is out, or Panasonic raw 4K, things will change. And you never know, maybe even Nikon puts out a hybrid photo/video camera that somebody would acctualy LIKE to use...
If Gh5 brings what it should (RAW, 15 stops DR, Image stabilisation, decent autofocus, excellant photo etc...), then URSAS and such will be obsolete! Which is exactly what big guys want to do to indies if they wanna keep their market (Red, BM, digital bolex, CION are class enemies of Sony, Canon, Panasonic...).
If not, new Canon 5D will take all the prize with little to no upgrades (4K, DR of 11 stops, shitty fixed screen; Magic Lantern will hack it so maybe RAW might happened in new 5D).
All in all, C300 will go down in price for sure (around 4-7K).
Its funny how people don't get a clue from 4K slash in pricing of C300...
You don't cut your price in 4000$ just like that overnight do you? What would happen if your income goes down 25% overnight, how would your life change?
Yet Canon can afford such move without a blink. How come? To me that clearly say that the real price of C300 II is in 3-4K range. (If BM can make profit with their pricing can you imagine how much is cheaper for canon to produce C300 then what they say it costs?)
The only reason C300 is not priced 3-4k is because there is no competitors! No DSLR that its threatning them. But once Canon 5D 4K is out, or Panasonic raw 4K, things will change. And you never know, maybe even Nikon puts out a hybrid photo/video camera that somebody would acctualy LIKE to use...
dmitrizigany
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I don't think the VG series sold very well. Updated versions would make great b-cams. But I think most people would still get an A7 series camera as b-cam as they also double as still cameras.
I still expect to see a full frame FS series camera (maybe not this year but sooner rather than later). I'm pretty sure those would sell like hot cakes! (I know I'd want one)
ReelWorksMedia
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I have a "believe it when I see it" attitude towards Canon rumors.....but....every part of me wants this to be true. Thats the camera I would love to own. Just seems like its a far cry from being near.
Bassman2003
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I would not hold any breath. And if new Canon C-series cameras do arrive they will be priced higher and under spec'd to what people want. It is the same cycle over and over every year. If a C100 MKIII is going to be out there then that does not bode well for the 5DMKIV having killer video. Sigh... It will all work out in the end.
Mitch Gross
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Maybe it costs $4K to make the second C300. The first one cost several million dollars. Gotta make that back over time.
Erik Naso
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If Canon comes out with a C100 MKIII I think this would be the earliest update of a cinema EOS camera ever. I also feel the MKII's didn't sell nearly as well as Canon expected but that is partially because Sony undercut them hard in all things video and hybrid stills in the last 2 years. I bought a FS7 instead of a C100 MKII and couldn't afford the C300 MKII. I wanted higher frame rates more than UHD and now have both.
C100 - August 2012
C100 MKII - October 2014
C100 MKIII - September 2016?
Seems about right to me. One of the guys in the know just said here on this forum that there won't be a C100MKIII anytime soon, but if it is released this year, I expect it to be overpriced and crippled as always.