Camera rumors for 2016?

Kodak (some of you old film buffs may remember the name) is introducing a smartphone camera that is made "with a photographer in mind". (camera portion starts at ~ 2:30 in) The design kind of/sort of reminds you of the last year's Panasonic CM1

Kodak Ektra


Panasonic CM1


All they need to add is a pancake zoom and voila!
 
DLD said:
$2,000 for EM1 MKII.

Well, let's see how it ranks on the sales charts for November.
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When everyone was guessing prices for the GH5 that's the number I threw out.

Can this mean the GH5 will be more? It certainly can't be less?
 
puredrifting said:
Rumors are often wrong but it does seem that a Chinese or Korean company could acquire them as Nikon has lots of heritage, know-how and engineering acumen, I agree, they would be too desirable to just go BK and fade away. I've been a Nikon user for many decades, I hope they achieve success and are around a lot longer. But the opportunities they have failed to capitalize on kill me.
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Nikkei (a financial paper, kind of like Japanese WSJ) has published a report that Nikon was about to dump 1,000 employees.

Nikon immediately responded with the statement, "We may announce layoffs or we may not".

Which means they will but probably not after the end of the year. And, more importantly, things ain't looking good for them.
 
Interesting updates DLD. Guess some of the rumors I've been hearing all year might be true. It's a changing world and if the behemoths don't adapt and innovate, truly innovate, they die and their carcasses and IP are sold off to the highest bidder.
 
Yes, with the free flow of information these days, there is nothing to hide behind anymore. Innovation is what makes most business' successful. It is hard to keep up the pace for all companies large or small. The large entities benefitted from control and general lack of information flow in the past but that is receding day by day. All that talk aside, the rise of the smart phone just changed the entire visual industry.
 
As much as I am not a fan of Sony's color science, I give them props, the FS7 II is looking like it is truly an innovative upgrade, built-in variable ND is super cool and an interesting way to raise the bar. I wish Sony had good colors because I would seriously be buying this camera if the color wasn't so crappy. The new kit lens is a constant F4 and parfocal, they revised the E mount, Sony is killing it as far as features and innovation. If they could just make a secret under tha table deal to get the Canon or Arri color science into this camera, they would instantly bury any and all competition in this range. http://nofilmschool.com/2016/10/sony-fs7-mark-ii
 
puredrifting said:
Interesting updates DLD. Guess some of the rumors I've been hearing all year might be true. It's a changing world and if the behemoths don't adapt and innovate, truly innovate, they die and their carcasses and IP are sold off to the highest bidder.
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Nikon really painted itself into the corner with all those Sony deals because it kept them from entering the currently hot 4K photo-video market that has been dominated by GH4 and Sony A7S/R series. If they don't find another sensor supplier - either instead of or in addition to - Sony, then its pretty hard to see them climbing out of the hole.
 
I always think Sony will push Canon to be better, and just when you think one of their innovative mirrorless cameras or best-selling FS5 or FS7 will force Canon to do more, they go ahead and release the XC10/15 upgrade or a $30,000 C700.

You can't win...
 
NorBro said:
I always think Sony will push Canon to be better, and just when you think one of their innovative mirrorless cameras or best-selling FS5 or FS7 will force Canon to do more, they go ahead and release the XC10/15 upgrade or a $30,000 C700.

You can't win...
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What happens isn't that they don't produce cameras that they can but that they release them a cycle too late at double the price. BMD and Red (and Sony, when they are on top of the cycle) products basically provide the current standards at current prices. Others will lag behind, often because they have an ecosystem that is based on years of goodwill.

Speaking of ecosystems (that not many folks use), here's a brand new Leica TL camera.

https://uk.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-TL/Leica-TL

And I am bringing this up because the camera has 32 GB of internal memory, which is quite a lot for a 1080p model. Those of you with your own built-in memory - nice segue, huh? - might recall that this was a theme on this forum a while back, with me insisting that cameras with internal memory will be coming out soon enough.

And here it is.
 
Just noticed that Nikon had released a new camera D5600. There's no price given and Nikon Rumors aren't even sure if it'll come to the US. D5500 is currently retailing for ~ $700. Neither has or will have 4K video.

So, the way the market is currently allocated :

Panasonic has the sub-$1,000 ILC market to itself with the outgoing G7, G8 and the incoming GX85/G80 series.

Sony (RX100IV) and Panasonic (FZ1000 and LX100) have the 1" bridge 4K market, with the higher end offering extending into the $1,500 range (RX10III). Nikon announced their DL series but it's missed it delivery dates by the BMD size margins.

Panasonic GH4 and Olympus EM1 MKII have the MFT 4K units around and under $2,000.

Sony has the sub-$2,000 APS-C market to itself with A6300 and arriving A6500, as Fuji XT2 with the battery grip runs slightly over $2,000 (Nikon D500 is currently on sale for $1,800).

Aside of Fuji XT2 and Nikon D5500, which straddle the $2,000 fence, there are no 4K ILC's in between $2,000 and $3,000. (Maybe GH5?) Above $3,000, there are A7SII, A7RII and A99II from Sony and 5D MKIV from Canon.

There should be a market for the additional six-to-eight distinct 4K models. One of them is likely to be A77III.
 
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