Camera rumors for 2016?
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philiplipetz
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BH is shut down for Passover.
bill totolo
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Well received how?
Not anymore. B&H's online ordering opened back up, which means that if the price has gone up on the C100, they would have updated it at that point.
And the instant rebate on the C100 Mark I is $1500... not $500.
A few Cinematographers who have shot some commercials and such with it were very happy with the image quality and one of them was very impressed with the autofocus.
indiawilds
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Just picked up a 1DX Mark II and a 80D for my assistant. My primary camera is a C300. I was stunned to hear that the 1DXII is selling like hot cakes. Such an expensive camera and it is flying fast. The wedding guys are just picking up 5DSR. I was in the dealers store and saw wedding photographer insisting on buying 5DSR as other established wedding photographers are buying the 5DSR. The video crowd is a small subset of the DSLR buyers.
bill totolo
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Reason I asked is I literally have met two people who've bought the MKII whereas I've met at least a hundred owners of the C300 (MKI), and dozens of FS7 owners.
We should put up a survey to see who's renting the MKII.
Maybe because the c300 MKl is a lot cheaper than the MKll. The C300 MKll is my dream camera. The price is the only issue as I'm sure it is for a lot f people who would jump on it if the price were better. I'm holding out hope for the rumored 5DC. Mitch Gross you out there? DO we have some surprises coming?
Jim Martin
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We've moved a lot of units, mostly here in LA...many are being hired by Netflix to shoot and we did outfit the new Chelsea Handler show with them too. Also, a couple of big companies are circling the camera and some of the many reality show producers are going for them. There are also quite a few independent features currently shooting with them.
As for rentals in town, there is ourselves here at EVS, Birns, Evidence, Visionary Forces, Alan Gordon, Alternative, to name a few....
Jim Martin
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High1ander
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Off course they still do the trick and stuff like wedding photos doesn't really require great dynamic range, etc (sure DR is always nice, but they tend to be "beautiful" where it is just good if the window in the back is blown out instead of seeing grass and cars in the background)... My focus was mostly on how Cannon pushed the envelope with video in 5dMk2 and then improving with 5dMk3 3-6 years ago to today just not bothering. I won't go back to Canon unless they step up (I only buy whatever is the best bang for the buck and as long as the company which has the best camera aren't completely wretched), and I do use cameras for both photos and videos, so neither should be crippled for me to consider a buy. I know that most people buy their stuff for photos, but the lines are being blurred for people like photojournalists to send both pictures and videos of various subjects.
The simple fact that Sony basically coming from nowhere with their mirrorless cameras and E-mount to taking a huge chunk of the market shows how much Canon is slipping. I mean if you can take market shares from a dominant force even when you have less options in lenses, etc. shows that the cameras themselves are better (*better in terms "more in line with what people want to pay for). Sony didn't get much of a market share with their Alpha lineup, but with mirrorless they struck gold. The thing is also that it isn't like Sony is some cheap alternative, like BMD is to Sony, RED, Arri, etc. people are paying good money, 2000-3000$ that easily could have gone to Canon if they had better options in that price bracket...
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Mitch Gross
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I think you're asking about lower end cameras. I don't know about lower end.
Eric Coughlin
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How well do you find they match? I'm thinking of getting a 1DX Mark II as a C-cam with two C300 Mark IIs. Be nice to have those auto-focus features for Glidecam use as the C300 Mark II is a bit heavy for the Glidecam, as well as a third 4k camera for three camera interview setups. Or perhaps my C100 Mark II ought to be the C-cam instead? Internal ND filters and video features vs 4K and improved autofocus.
indiawilds
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Eric,
I just found that the 1DX II shoots video at around 1.3 crop (APS-H). The C300 IIs and C100 etc are around 1.53 crop S35/APS-C. So lens choice has to be done accordingly. There is no C-log in 1DX II. That is a disappointment. However, I can deal with that. Shooting in c-log with the C300s and then matching with the 1DX II would be easier.
I am not a steadicam guy. However, I have a Letus Helix 3 axis gimbal. When I am home at the end of this month, I will test the 1DxII with the Helix. I think it would be good and easier to balance unlike the C300. The autofocus of the 1DX II works nicely. That itself merits its selection over the C100 II despite lack of NDs.
I have never used the auto ISO feature except for stills shooting in DSLR couple of years back. However with the 1DX II the auto ISO seems to be working fine. Have to do more tests though in the field.
Cheers,
Sabyasachi
I just found that the 1DX II shoots video at around 1.3 crop (APS-H). The C300 IIs and C100 etc are around 1.53 crop S35/APS-C. So lens choice has to be done accordingly. There is no C-log in 1DX II. That is a disappointment. However, I can deal with that. Shooting in c-log with the C300s and then matching with the 1DX II would be easier.
I am not a steadicam guy. However, I have a Letus Helix 3 axis gimbal. When I am home at the end of this month, I will test the 1DxII with the Helix. I think it would be good and easier to balance unlike the C300. The autofocus of the 1DX II works nicely. That itself merits its selection over the C100 II despite lack of NDs.
I have never used the auto ISO feature except for stills shooting in DSLR couple of years back. However with the 1DX II the auto ISO seems to be working fine. Have to do more tests though in the field.
Cheers,
Sabyasachi
Hello Sabyasachi,
could you try Technicolor CineStyle with 1D X MII, shoot some high dynamic scene and post here?
Apparently, it will not roll off highlights as nicely as C-log, but there should be noise improvement in shadows.
(My wishfull thinking is that if this 'faux-log' becomes popular with 1D X MII then, maybe, Canon will give up and give us proper C-log.)
could you try Technicolor CineStyle with 1D X MII, shoot some high dynamic scene and post here?
Apparently, it will not roll off highlights as nicely as C-log, but there should be noise improvement in shadows.
(My wishfull thinking is that if this 'faux-log' becomes popular with 1D X MII then, maybe, Canon will give up and give us proper C-log.)
As we've discussed, here's the next step up in the smartphone photo/video imaging - dual cameras.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/huawe...9-and-p9-plus-available-now-leica-dual-camera
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/huawe...9-and-p9-plus-available-now-leica-dual-camera
Eric Coughlin
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I do have a Steadicam Zephyr which can handle up to 24 lbs, so it handles the C300 Mark II easily. But it takes about 5-10 minutes to setup, whereas the Glidecam only takes 1-2 minutes to setup. If I got a 1DX Mark II, I feel like I might need to get a SmallHD 502 to keep constantly attached to it, which would take more time to setup, dealing with the batteries and cables for it. And ND filters to screw on and off, also adding time to setup. At that point, I'd start to wonder if setting up the 1DX Mark II to shoot on the Glidecam would take just as long as setting up the Steadicam Zephyr with the C300 Mark II. The Zephyr does take up more room in my car, so the Glidecam is still good for long traveling trips when I have limited room in my SUV.
I guess since the 1DX Mark II also has touch screen auto-focus, it is actually better than the C300 Mark II's autofocus setup. Would you agree with that?
Something I've heard mixed reports on...is the internal 4k 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 on the 1DX Mark II?
cobz01
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Quote From one of the reviews:
The good news is that the quality of the internal 4K footage is, on paper, of very high quality. It is recorded at a data rate 800Mb/s, with 4:2:2 colour sub-sampling with a BT601 colour standard, with 8bit encoding.
