C100: BandH special until 11/28. C100 Body only
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puredrifting
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DPAF is a must. Think twice about the 24-105. I have not tried the new one but generally, 24mm on S35 imager is not wide, 38.4mm FOV. So for interior work/handheld, generally, you may be frustrated at it not being wide enough. The old 24-105 also has terrible distortion, is soft for it's price, size and weight. I am sure the new one is better but the 17-55 2.8 IS is a better choice as a run and gun lens (especially for a wedding specialist who probably gets stuck in badly lit or dark interiors a lot?) or if you work on exteriors or well lit interiors, the 18-135 STM IS is great, I have one as well as the 17-55 IS. The 18-135 STM IS just not fast enough for darker interiors without cranking up the ISO. The C100 still looks pretty good up to about ISO 1600 IMHO. After that, you need to denoise the video or live with the increased grain.
Michael Thames
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The C100 mkII has been this price for about the last year. No deal happening yet.
Eric Coughlin
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Also of note, the one-shot AF is way slower without the DPAF upgrade. Not that useful, I found.
ChromeHeart
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I know cameras can rarely be considered to be a good long term investment, but is the C100 still worth buying today? With 4K becoming standard in the next year or two, would it be better to just wait it out for the next C100? I'm wanting to get into more event/wedding/commercial videography... would this camera cover me for the next few years?
ChromeHeart
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Sounds about right. I'll let you guys know if I end up buying one!
puredrifting
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I've seen wedding videographers advertise 4k delivery, makes sense. Anyone who wants to drop $3k to $10k on a wedding video probably has the bucks to have a 4K capable TV although at this point, how do wedding videographers deliver 4k for playback to their clients? Just YouTube and Vimeo or how do they deliver it?
Are those two your main lenses for the C100? I'm planning on mostly interviews and docs with some walking around/tourist-y stuff thrown in, will they be a good fit?
Or, if you were to visit Disney, which lens would ou bring?
Eric Coughlin
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I seem to recall in the beginning of the HD days some wedding videographers were delivering a blu-ray player with their wedding video packages.
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My standard wedding lens package is...
Canon 24-105 f/4
Tokina 11-20 f/2.8
Sigma 18-35 f/1.8
Canon 24-70 f/2.8
Nikon 80-200 f/2.8
Vivitar 70-210 f/3.5
Vivitar 70-210 f/3.5
Unless if I'm doing a church wedding where I have to be far away during the ceremony, I'll typically leave my Canon 100-400 II, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS II, and 1.4x teleconverter at home. The Vivitar lenses are smaller, lighter, and much cheaper (so eaiser to replace if damaged/broken), but good enough for wedding use. I'll use the Canon telephotos on other jobs like corporate work.
I've filmed around 20 or so weddings at Disney in Orlando. Disney weddings are so redundant; same jokes, same characters, same everything.
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NorBro
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Besides a private or public video link, I deliver everything I do in one (or several) high-quality 4K files on a flash drive or hard drive. I've been pushing people to watch the files on their computers when I started shooting 4K in 2014 after I realized I was getting good feedback and more work as a result. Sometimes you may have to answer questions about why it doesn't look like this online or why it stutters when they play it back (old computers).
Hmm I remember one shoot where I seemed to get more noise on the ninja in Canon log,maybe it was cause I was shooting at 3200 ISO. I'll try shooting to it again on your success
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Go for it. FWIW, I don't shoot Log and never shoot over ISO 1600 if I can help it. I shot some night stuff in Morocco in the Spring with my 28mm 1.8 wide open, I may have had to go to ISO 2500 on some of it.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I don't shoot weddings or use my C100 for tourist stuff but if I did, I would only bring my 18-135 STM IS. It's a good all arounder. Unless I was trying to shoot interiors, then I would bring the 17-55 STM IS only. I find one man banding it on location, it is not practical to bring an arsenal of lenses, too heavy, bulky and you rarely have time to change lenses a lot. My standard kit these days is the 17-55 2.8 STM IS and the 70-200 2.8 USM IS II. I can cover almost anything between those two lenses. But I recently did an all day reality show shoot at an outdoor event and only brought and used the 18-135 STM IS and it was a champ. Between those three lenses, those are pretty much all I use anymore unless I need the 10-18 STM IS for my Crane gimbal. Primes are kind of sitting around but I will keep them.
ChromeHeart
Member
So I didn't end up going with the C100 mk i. I just couldn't invest in a whole new camera system that I'm not totally familiar with just because it went on sale. I think this time of year can be pretty dangerous for making impulse purchases... buying into an expensive camera system should never be a quick decision. In any case, I hope Canon feels somewhat threatened by other companies like Sony who seem to be loading their cameras with more features for more reasonable prices. I think I can hold off until at least NAB and hope they introduce the mark iii with competitive features, in which case I could always lease from them at 0%. Ergonomics and Color Science isn't enough to justify those outrageous prices. The mk i should have cost this much from the beginning imo.
Can you recommend a good non log profile? I also used the18-135 and was expecting it to be terrible because it's not L. Great lens in reality.thx
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Been shooting with the Abel Cine profiles, which I modified a bit for my taste. Mostly I have been shooting WDR lately, it's very flexible for the kind of work I do, which sometimes gets graded and other times not, it goes straight to broadcast or the web without much color correction. Shot this piece with the actress Holly Robinson Peete with three C100s a few weeks ago using WDR. It had just a touch of CC, and looked decent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wAw9a9CYkM
Great images and nice floating camera on the midshot, can def learn a thing or two there. I shot WideDR for a client but it was too flat still, ill checkout the abelcine profiles. I guess there is no Alexa profile going round...