Anyone Decided on a Mic for the AF100?

The Panasonic AG-MC200G (Sensitivity: -40dB, S/N: 68dB) mic works with the HVX200 which has a mic gain of -50 dB or -60 dB the same as the AF100. So what gives? I can not believe Panasonic would down grade the audio on the AF100 from the HVX 200. Has any one tested a high sensitivity (-25 dB to -40 dB) mic on the AF 100 and found a problem?
 
The Panasonic AG-MC200G is actually recommended as an accessory in the latest AF100 brochure from panasonic. I currently own and use the mic with my HPX170 and plan on using it with my AF100. I think those who've said AG-MC200G will be too hot are mis-informed but correct me if I am wrong.
 
According to Jan you are wrong. Read the entire thread.

Yak said:
The Panasonic AG-MC200G (Sensitivity: -40dB, S/N: 68dB) mic works with the HVX200 which has a mic gain of -50 dB or -60 dB the same as the AF100. So what gives? I can not believe Panasonic would down grade the audio on the AF100 from the HVX 200. Has any one tested a high sensitivity (-25 dB to -40 dB) mic on the AF 100 and found a problem?
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Nothing was downgraded. Jan said the same problems goes for the HVX though many people used the mic despite it not being optimal.
 
I did read the entire thread and I know that Jan is in disagreement with the AG-MC200G being in the AF100 brochure, but I think the mic preforms well with my HPX170 and again, maybe I'm wrong but I'm assuming it will preform equally as well with my AF100. I'm not an audio guy and audio isn't hyper critical in most of my applications but I prefer the sound of the AG-MC200G over my ME66/K6P which is usually too hot.
 
So why does Panasonic list only the -40dB AG-MC200G mic as a accessory for the HVX 200 if it is not optimal. By the way I have been using Sanken CS1 and CMS-10 for years on a HVX200 with no problem.
 
Especially message #13 in this thread. She also suggests using a Shure attenuator if absolutely necessary (so I doubt the camera has "att"), but in another thread she says an attenuator is not an ideal solution. She even contacted Panasonic to get the -40db mic delisted from the brochure because it didn't match the AF's -50db specs. Has anyone seen the manual where it says the AF100's sensitivity is -50db? I'm just hoping Jan made a mistake, because I can't find any professional shotgun mics this insensitive.
 
BerkeleyBob said:
Especially message #13 in this thread. She also suggests using a Shure attenuator if absolutely necessary (so I doubt the camera has "att"), but in another thread she says an attenuator is not an ideal solution. She even contacted Panasonic to get the -40db mic delisted from the brochure because it didn't match the AF's -50db specs. Has anyone seen the manual where it says the AF100's sensitivity is -50db? I'm just hoping Jan made a mistake, because I can't find any professional shotgun mics this insensitive.
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Precisely, somethings wrong. Maby cameras always goes cam -50/60db and mics -36db.

I'm looking for it now (for reference) so name a camera with -36db sensitivity.
 
So, not seeing -50 or anything similar on the sennheiser site, can I take it that my trusty 416 I've been using on my HVX's is too hot too?
Is the AF100 just a different sound spec to the HVX?
 
electricpig said:
So, not seeing -50 or anything similar on the sennheiser site, can I take it that my trusty 416 I've been using on my HVX's is too hot too?
Is the AF100 just a different sound spec to the HVX?
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Panasonic lists the spec for the HVX the same as AF 100. Go figure!
 
I found this which helps as most mic specs are listed in mV/Pa and not dBu. my ME66 is 50 mV/Pa which equals -24 dBu which explains why it's so hot on my HPX170 set at -50. looks like I'm gonna start using my -25 pad with that mic.

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Igelkott Film said:
Can someone link to a page that sell pads?
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Whirlwind sells 10-20-30db inline pads. Shure sells a 15-20-25 switcheable pad. I believe Audio Technica also sells switchable pads. If you work with a location recordists on shoots, chances are he or she has them available.

Any decent music production retailer will have them; from good mom & pop shops, to boutique recording stores, to giant corporations like Guitar Center.
 
Petros Kolyvas said:
Whirlwind sells 10-20-30db inline pads. Shure sells a 15-20-25 switcheable pad. I believe Audio Technica also sells switchable pads. If you work with a location recordists on shoots, chances are he or she has them available.

Any decent music production retailer will have them; from good mom & pop shops, to boutique recording stores, to giant corporations like Guitar Center.
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Can you link to one on http://www.shure.co.uk/
Searching for "pad" turns up more bags then pads ;)
 
Jan_Crittenden said:
...Not many video cameras can handle this level and most certainly not the AF100.
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It would be great to one day have built in pads in new cameras, especially since this is a known issue with all camera brands. Shooting a live event with a stereo mic and using two heavy pads it not so convenient. A switch on the camera would be golden IMO! :)
 
Averdahl said:
It would be great to one day have built in pads in new cameras, especially since this is a known issue with all camera brands. Shooting a live event with a stereo mic and using two heavy pads it not so convenient. A switch on the camera would be golden IMO! :)
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I was quite shocked that the af100 don't have a built in pad.
My Canon XH-A1 has pad and i use it frequently..
 
the panasonic cameras do basically have a -10dB pad right? I mean you can select -50dB or -60dB sensitivity in the recording settings, so isn't that an in camera -10dB pad?
 
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