550D/GH13 comparision shot
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aituv
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Grunf you have a defected camera, return it to canon or something. I have tested GH1, t2i, 7D and 5D mk ii before making my purchase. GH1 was the first one off my list. I suggest to everyone, do physical tests to make judgments. See for yourself what is good...maybe follow philip bloom.
Emanuel
Cross-Examiner
No worries. I understand your point and I think GH13 is a terrific capture option. I wouldn't go outside to shoot whatever, wherever, without one or two in my bag. The Lomo option is crystal water to anyone. Even though, I have a feeling you won't get the same look with the 5D Mark + Iscorama combo. Some options (cameras?) -- and a few 'rare' setups, are like women. You can have any but no other will give you the same outcome ;-)I guess I'm probably not supposed to say that...(honestly sorry). But this one is pretty clear cut. I'm also NOT SAYING that people can't use ANY of the three of those cameras to make quality material. (With talent, time, determination, support.) ...and that's COMPLETELY the same for someone with a GH13.
For me specifically, I like to shoot with Anamorphic lenses. It's just so much fun to me. I find that adding anamorphics to the equation is challenging. One of those factors is the fact that they soften the image. The T2i image is already softer (as you can see)...and that's fine....except that sometimes it can get so soft that it's pretty much unusable. I can't wait to shoot with the GH13. I've already seen some anamorphic footy....WOW! (Lomo Anamorphic...I have one too.) It was AMAZING! No QUESTION...it was better than ANYTHING I have shot with the T2i WITH THE SAME LENS. It's OK....no biggie. But, it's still true.
BTW...I'm competely aware that 6 months from now it may be the 5d Mark (X) with RAW video(lol). I promise I won't complain though....I'll just smile and use it for all it's worth!
gabrielflorit
Well-known member
I'm not saying good or bad. Just note that I will own both. T2i shoot better pics, (obviously no where NEAR as good as 7d/5d)...and I'll use it for that as well as video in a pinch. But....I'll be happy to get back with you if you would like for me to report my findings (T2i (vid) VS GH13 (vid))...but several people already have.
ps....Phillip Bloom already said that the new hack turns the GH1 into "Optimus Prime". Just FYI.
Ain't that the truth! (Preach on) I actually OWNED a Iscorama 36....I sold it (along with my soul) to pay some bills.
Some times you just gotta do what you gotta do. I own around 30 anamorphic lenses. (It's my anamorphic Harem...) I really need to talk to someone about my problem with anamorphic lenses. (lol)
kostas
Well-known member
Ain't that the truth! (Preach on) I actually OWNED a Iscorama 36....I sold it (along with my soul) to pay some bills.
Oh I totally understand you! This is just addictive
aituv
Well-known member
my original intent was to stop all this complaining, and just shoot! Get the work done, camera is just a tool, it wont make you an awesome film maker. Just like that nikon quote "Having a nikon camera doesnt make you a photographer, it makes you a nikon owner" same applies here. but since this thread IS kind of comparing and what not, throw away the gh1 from "DSLR" category, its not - it has no mirror.
Barry_Green
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Correct, which makes it better for video. It means you still have a viewfinder.
The mirror in a DSLR is good for stills, but pointless for video.
Ben_B
Veteran
Chillout guys.
Sure the kit lenses are made of different quality. Here's funny stuff on the subject:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=213806
Something posted a few months ago on the 550D kit lens' inferior quality:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1908462&postcount=16
Another interesting one where it is possible to see the sharpest GH1 kit lens to shine over... a L class lens (go figure!):
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=2015824&postcount=252
Worth noting that the GH1's 14-140mm kit lens is, in fact, a piece of "L" glass given that L just stands for "contains aspherical elements" and the GH1 kit lens contains aspherical elements. Well, officially it stands for "luxury" or something but really for all intents and purposes optically it just means it has aspherical elements...that's what most people list it as meaning in their catalogs (B&H for example.)
We all know the lens on the Gh1 is better + a lot more expensive. Now I probably used poor choice of words and I apologize but I fail to believe that those pictures are normal.
Having used a t2i with a kit lens for a couple of months already it produces great pictures + video image quality.
I will just back out of this thread because I honestly have no idea what is going on with these tests.
HDkilledFILM.
Burnin' down the House
My one question of the gh13 is does it allow HDMI out durring shooting or not?
Barry_Green
Moderator
No. No monitoring of any kind, during recording. Only the LCD/VF.
Ben_B
Veteran
Not much more expensive...it's an $800 lens...true..but the T2i is $900 with a lens and the GH1 is only $1200 with the lens...meaning that for $300 more you get an $800 lens...not a bad deal.
Anyway the standard 18-55mm low end kit lenses are generally pretty crummy.
ROCKMORE
Veteran
Would you mind posting the full frame of those 2 shots. I've been shooting with a 550D for 4 months and everything is sharp.
thanks
Post the full frame.
Then use the same lens on the GH13 (the HACKED version for anyone who's not up to speed) as you do on the T2i.
Doesn't really matter, someone will say you've done something wrong when the answer's pretty clear: the GH1 just looks more "HD" if that's a simpler way to put it.
When I say the appearance of more resolved detail, it's probably because of the hideous moire and aliasing characteristics of the Canon line up. GH1 has aliasing, it just looks different and seems to only appear on larger more defined lines.
Canon's is fine and can appear on hair follicles etc and make the image look crunchy.
Pick your poison... but neither is better. Each is a VASTLY different image to my eye. The GH13 looks more like EX1 with a massive sensor. It's pristine and almost glass-like if you see it on a large screen.
Then use the same lens on the GH13 (the HACKED version for anyone who's not up to speed) as you do on the T2i.
Doesn't really matter, someone will say you've done something wrong when the answer's pretty clear: the GH1 just looks more "HD" if that's a simpler way to put it.
When I say the appearance of more resolved detail, it's probably because of the hideous moire and aliasing characteristics of the Canon line up. GH1 has aliasing, it just looks different and seems to only appear on larger more defined lines.
Canon's is fine and can appear on hair follicles etc and make the image look crunchy.
Pick your poison... but neither is better. Each is a VASTLY different image to my eye. The GH13 looks more like EX1 with a massive sensor. It's pristine and almost glass-like if you see it on a large screen.
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Haha. Good one, Emanuel.
I wonder, though. 5DMKii + Isco 50 vs GH-1 + Hawk 25mm. =D Wouldn't that be an interesting comparison?
HDkilledFILM.
Burnin' down the House
I wonder, for how many this will be the deal breaker? I know that the t2i doesn't do full 1080 out (neither does the 5d2, the 7d does) but if you use any crane/jib or stedicam set up an external monitor is something that you need...
This is the exact reason why I got rid of my GH1 last year. No monitoring is very tough for production. I do have faith that Vitaily will bring it, though.
It's a major concern, regardless.
That'll pretty much complete the camera for me once it gets here.