24p vs. 24pN

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m7200

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shooting footage to be filmed out.

heard that 24pN wont look good on NTSC dvd's because you need to introduce pulldown to the footage, while 24p is over 60 and therefor coverts better to 29.97 dvd's.

any thoughts?
anyone who actually went all the way to film??

(is 24pN 24 of 23.98??)

thanks,

michael
 
24p "over 60i" uses exactly pulldown for the conversion.
24p "over 60p" simply repeats frames that you might need to remove in post if you are editing in 24p

The acquisition stage is separated from the display stage by the editing, so they ain't necessarily directly dependant on either.

The format you choose to edit in will have a much greater impact on both how you should shoot and how your delivery will look.


- Mikko
 
I haven't "introduced pulldown" when using 720/24pn source footage in the two years I've shot and replicated SD DVDs.

Our clients love the footage.
 
Of course. DVDs were designed from day one to support 24P content. Every hollywood movie ever released on DVD has been authored as 24p.
 
so basically workflow wise 24p and 24pN are the same?
are both 23.98?
no difference when doing the filmout and mastering to hdcam sr???
 
Barry_Green said:
Correct, but if using 720/24p on an HVX you'd have to remove the pulldown to make the editing process identical.
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I've shot 720p and 720pN footage.

My timeline on finalcut is 720p.

Am I okay? or is there another step I'm missing.

Sorry for redundancy of questions...when it comes to this stuff, I become very confused. :undecided
 
srdan, don't feel bad. There are so many variables getting from lens to delivery that after 30 years in the industy I often feel like I'm starting over! :crybaby:

That's why I try to read this forum a couple times a day. There is a lot of knowledge here!
Just remember, not all statements are true though. Sometimes you gotta know the players to filter the truth. That's the hard part. :)
I always trust Barry and Mikko though!
 
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srdan said:
My timeline on finalcut is 720p.

Am I okay? or is there another step I'm missing. :undecided
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I don't use FCP so I can't authoritatively answer; SpeedEdit or EDIUS or Raylight can all strip out the duplicate frames on the fly and I think Premiere Pro does as well, so it never becomes an issue. But FCP doesn't so I think you have to check the "remove duplicate frames upon import" box in the Log & Transfer function and that should solve it for you, rendering your imported files to be identical to 24pN files.

If you've already imported the footage from the cards, perhaps there's something in Cinema Tools that can solve this?
 
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