5DII DOES 1080P footage!!!!!!

Kholi said:
Yes, it would. sorry. And, can't wait for one of you people to go and shoot a feature in 30p.

Make sure you record the audience responses. And, yeah, I care what the audience thinks: who do you think is gonna keep your career going?
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Wow....


Just... wow.....


I think we should start a 24p Vs The WORLD thread in cinematography.

Just so we can really beat the dead horse.
 
ESTEBEVERDE said:
Wow....


Just... wow.....


I think we should start a 24p Vs The WORLD thread in cinematography.

Just so we can really beat the dead horse.
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Your logic is flawed. It's okay for someone to say something against it... but responding is wrong?

A+
 
i did a few tests exporting canon's footage from final cut at 24fps and it was (despite the blandness of the footage) not bad. not as good as shooting natively at 24fps, but better than staying in 30fps which is so soccer mom.
 
i'll try tomorrow at work (oops, don't tell the boss). file is there. or at least copy it and put it up over the weekend. tough to tell on their footage with such minimal movement (like we can't see the effects of the rolling shutter) but it seemed to have a slightly nicer cadence. not so perfect. and that, i think, is part of the allure of 24fps. that it's NOT perfect. if digital video gets to the point of perfectly mimicking human eyesight, doesn't the movie become less of an escape?
 
It seems to me if Optical Flow from Shake can create good vector frames for slow motion, that it might be possible to create acceptable interpolations of 30p to 24p.
 
stoiqa said:
...header of the website says"..online community for filmmaking"...not soap opera (lol....just putting some gas over....:Drogar-Smoke(DBG):
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just wanna be able to check out what's new with canon's entry into VDSLR, since nikon's only entry into any kind of video has it's own section. i'd prefer a canon for many reasons i won't go into unprovoked, and wonder why - if a dslr from nikon with video cpabilities gets a dedicated section with the highest viewers of all sections on dvxuser - there's not s slot for the new canon, which also records video, under the canon section.

pour the gas all you want, zak's shooting with the d90. i'll be shooting with either the d90 or (if the rolling shutter is less on the canon) the canon 5d mark ii shortly. laugh, mock, ridicule at will. the tools are here. some are embracing; some are whining. i'd rather be one forging ahead.
 
Rubbersquare said:
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if a dslr from nikon with video cpabilities gets a dedicated section with the highest viewers of all sections on dvxuser - there's not s slot for the new canon, which also records video, under the canon section.
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It dawns on me that all of the talk about the Canon is a bit premature. As I understand it most people won't be able to have one in their hands until early next year. I know how all the rumors and speculation flew around prior to the D90's release, and how much my understanding of the situation changed when people started having them in their hands... would a Canon section to discuss the speculation of what the camera be like when it ships really be useful?

I hope that by early next year Nikon will have another D-SLR out that's able to shoot video, and maybe Sony or someone else (Red?) as well.
 
30FPS is not good, then hack the firmware and get 24FPS?

As far as i am aware, all these features are controlled by the firmware, and other code based modules on the camera, so the question is more, how long will it take to hack the firmware so this camcorder can do 24FPS?

Its easier (safer/possible) to slow down a sensor, but speeding it up (60p) may be impossible due to the actual senssor (hardware)

Many people have hacked firmware on their cameras to unlock some features, or get better control over software based featues and the likes...

The CMOS in the 5DII is not the latest generation of CMOS as it only uses low seperation cmos lenses on the cmos sensor, as oppose to "GAPLESS"

I would save my cash if i just want video, and see if a 50DII is announced, as this is the closest model to the D90 in the canon range, and it would not take a great deal for them to add a video feature...
 
Thanks Joe 1008. This seems to be the first footage that shows the 5ds rolling shutter performance. And it appears to be absolutely outstanding. I ordered my 5d on wednesday. Now it's time to wait.

The rolling shutter is also visible during the highway scene released by Canon. During the last 4 or 5 frames the camera seems to get unmounted and the picture starts wobbling, top and bottom part seperately. The effect seems much stronger to me than in the video you posted though.
 
In that video I noticed there's another canon video running on the screen in the background. It looks like a forest that's shot from within a driving car. Logically such a shot would totally reveal the rolling shutter issues. Hm... The Canon rep in the video seems happy though. Maybe they wanna prove that rolling shutter isn't a big issue on their 5d, similar to the red which also uses a cmos.
 
Rubbersquare said:
pour the gas all you want, zak's shooting with the d90. i'll be shooting with either the d90 or (if the rolling shutter is less on the canon) the canon 5d mark ii shortly. laugh, mock, ridicule at will. the tools are here. some are embracing; some are whining. i'd rather be one forging ahead.
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Just ask Zak to try to re-shoot "I f***ing hate you" with the D90. I'd love to see all those cool shaky camera moves he did through the distorted eyes of the D90. It would probably be like viewing "I f***ing hate you" through the eyes of Hunter S. Thompson.
 
I'd rather shoot 24p (of 25p for that matter) than 30p any day of the week, but I really think that the issue here is rolling shutter and nothing else. If you shoot 30p the audience might be bummed for the first 5 minutes or so after your movie starts, but once they get into the storyline they'll forget about it. You can shoot your story with a cell phone, it's your material that will decide if it's good or not. Of course shooting 24p (25p) will be better, but not being able to do so should not stop anybody.
 
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