I have an EX1 for a weekend. Anyone want me to run tests?

Alex.Mitchell

Alex.Mitchell

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Title says it all. I have an EX for the weekend and I was wondering if there was anything you guys would like me to try out. I will obviously be testing the EXs ability to handle fluorescent lighting, flashes of light, wobble, and skew, but is there something you guys would like to know that I could find out for you?
 
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yes. Composite. SD. For simple external monitoring, you need composite..


Of course feel free to test as many outputs as you can. :thumbsup:




Oh, and do the SxS "clip-drop" test. ... record a few unimportant clips to a card, and then eject it while recording. What happens? How about if you power off while recording? Remove the battery?

- Mikko
 
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I think most people want to know about the vignetting issue and whether it's a limited-sample defect or something that's affecting all the units.
 
NorthernFilmMaker said:
Take it in an airplane and see if it can withstand 12 Gs....LOL.....they did 10 Gs
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LOL...

Yes, I watched those videos. Amazing.
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/markets/10014/xdcamVideoGallery.shtml


The vignetting issue was viewed from the 10mm-25mm range, but may be different. Yes, check it out. I will be checking mine tomorrow. I know the range is strange, but we all saw the video.

So far we know of two, walts and Paul (dvinfo).
The other reports in have been fine.
 
Morpheus_23 said:
I'd like to get mine (I'm on the list) and do some EX1 HVX comparisons.
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I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, but I can bet Panasonic will have a 1/2" cam less than 8K on their design list.

Having said that. These are all great tools. Use them to your (and the cameras) best ability and the footage will look great.

I've seen a lot of HVX200 stuff that looks really good.
 
Steve,
I think Panasonic will never put a full resolution 1/2" CCD into the HVX, as that will affect the hpx500 and hpx 2000. The full resolution 2/3" CCD camera is their hpx 3000 which has a MSRP of $ 48k. Look at the dvx100b, it is still native 4:3.

I think Sony is cannibalizing its own 1/2" xdcam F3XX series (> $20k cam) to put out the EX1. Definitely a lot of value for a $6450, which include 2 free 8 gig card.
 
Dxmetal,
I hear you. It's all about the number games for manufactures.
I think Sony was smart for their decision.

Look how far we have come since the Sony VX1000.
There's been advances every year. Sony jumped in to counter the Panasonic HVX200 which has been a real hit. The HVX200 is capable of producing some nice stuff.
Sony had to step it up a notch to promote sales in this sub 8K market.

The release of the EX1 is going to help everyone, even those who are not sold on the camera.
Just imagine three years from now.
 
I think Panasonic will never put a full resolution 1/2" CCD into the HVX, as that will affect the hpx500 and hpx 2000.
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This argument is common, but it's also complete nonsense. People said Panasonic wouldn't put out variable frame rates on the HVX because it would cannibalize their VariCam. So? They did it anyway. They said they wouldn't put 1080/24p there because it'd cannibalize the VariCam. So? They did it anyway. VariCam's been out for five years -- they can't possibly hold the rest of the product line back because of it. In a year or two there'll be a new VariCam which will raise the bar a lot higher than the HPX500 or HVX200 and re-establish the pricing structure.

Point is, technology moves on. Products do get better. Sony put out the EX1 and yes it's going to kill off the F330/F350 (who, seriously, is going to pay 4x as much for one of those?) So? Products die, and new products rise, and prices go down. We're talking about an EX1 that even diehard F330/F350 owners admit it matches their cameras, at 1/4 the price. Doesn't that pretty much disprove the whole "they'll cripple the low end to protect the high end" argument?

Sony was getting their patootie handed to 'em in the marketplace. They needed to respond, aggressively. They have.
 
ummm... am i missing something

ummm... am i missing something

I'd love to help.

if in NYC contact me

(disregard title.. was thinking about something else)
 
Stevet said:
I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, but I can bet Panasonic will have a 1/2" cam less than 8K on their design list.

Having said that. These are all great tools. Use them to your (and the cameras) best ability and the footage will look great.

I've seen a lot of HVX200 stuff that looks really good.
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Actually, I think it is a fair comparison. I understand what your saying and I'm not dismissing it at all. I think the HVX set the standard as every other camcorder that came out had users trying to get the "HVX look" to their video. I think the comparisons with the HVX are inevitable. I've seen the stills from EX1, XHG1 and HVX. I don't put stock in still frames. I could do the same thing with my HV10. That is, take a still and compare it to an HVX still and say the HV10 looks better. But the reality comes from the footage. Again, the EX1 has the resolution but does that make it a better camera? Maybe it does, I don't know. You would expect the EX1 to have a sharper picture but is that all that makes it significantly better video?
I'm actually anxious to find out.
 
At +18 it would have a fair amount of noise.
But, for those who were used to 1/3" cameras and were ever willing to use +18, you will find it's capable of the same brightness at MUCH lower gains.
 
moving objects

moving objects

I´d like to see fast moving objects and pans.
Camera flashes.

All recorded to card.
 
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