XL2 first real life impression

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There are some things that I like in teh XL2 over the DVX(which I own) (16:9 built-in, built in shoulder mount, etc.) and there are many things I like better in the DVX(focus NUMBERS, hard zoom, more film-like in my opinion, wide-angle built-in, etc.). However, it seems to me that most of the Xl2's advantages can be replicated in teh dvx with some $$$: ana adapter, shouldermount, and so on. However, i just watched the XL2 night video...
HOLY FOOKIN CRAP
Y is there no grain whatsoever??? Calm down... okay, would the dvx do similarly well in these night areas, or does the canon just shoot very clean in low-light? My upcoming film is mostly at night in NYC, so there is a lot of lights at night, but still its dark, like the XL2 night video. I would like to know if the video just happens to look good and a dvx would perform similarly, or does the canon have a big advantage here?
 
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[quote author=hemophilia link=board=XL2;num=1093021579;start=105#119 date=08/23/04 at 14:40:30]Not to thread-jack or anything... but Tony_H:

I expect to see a very thorough report about the magiqcam once you've put it through the paces.

Pretty please.  :)[/quote]Oh yes, I'll provide video clips... don't know if I'll host em, but I'll put them out there. God only knows when it will come. Some people say they waited 11 weeks before getting theirs. I've sent them an email and left a message and haven't heard back yet.
 
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The nighttime footage has shown me three things:

a) Canon did not drop the ball. It's an awesome camera. I still prefer the form factor on the dvx, but if the image on the xl2 proves to be "superior" it wouldn't surprise me.

b) I've just got to visit Vienna.

c) Michael Moore IS fat. ;D
 
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think I'm going to get the DVC60 when it comes out,
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Are you serious? I guess if you're not doing quality widescreen it would be ok but its way too much plastic for me. I think I'll get a GS400 to compliment my DVX100A (or another DVX100A if I rob a bank).
 
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I have to ask but what was the sound track on that night video!?!
 
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I just remember, apparently you can import new gamma curves with the SDK, so whatever you don't like about the gamma curve you can change
 
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Gee I'm getting old. When I played with the XL2 last week I can't remember if in the future if someone writes the software you can use FCP or even Magic Bullet, or AE filters and effects, ie; film grain, etc. to add them as you shoot.
 
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Thanks for the preview. Looks great but with less flim look. Awsome looking camera. I couldn't see any noise at night, those shots were great!!!
 
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I don't get it, why is almost all the footage telephoto?  :)

On a more serious note... after loading the footage up on the DaVinci, I think I've finally really nailed the look I was going for.  No one can ever again say that it's not capable of a film look:

tempxl2clown.jpg
 
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[quote author=Zig Zigman link=board=XL2;num=1093021579;start=120#123 date=08/23/04 at 15:23:26]
c) Michael Moore IS fat.  ;D[/quote]

Yes. He came to speak at my school this year. For the record: He is really, really fat. And screw all you hippies who might try to yell at me for saying it and not taking into consideration blah blah blah. ;D
 
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Can anyone tell me the audio track used on the night clip????????
 
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This might only be bothering me, but there seems to be a motion difference in quality between the first 2 daytime clips that were posted. The first XL2 video clip (the one with the old man on the park bench that everyone is color correcting) definitely seems like a 24p clip (or rather 25p in this case). Like something the DVX could shoot if it had the wide screen mode. Very filmic.
That second clip though, Xl2 video2, has a more video/strobby feel to it in most of the shots. The same could be said in some of the night shots (which looked gorgeous by the way). I'm wondering if the switch was accidently set to 50i or maybe the 25p/24p feature hasn't been tweaked accordingly yet. Other then that everything looks good so far.
 
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thirsty

Based on johnnies settings for the night shots, I think what you are seeing is caused by the 1/25 second shutter speed. I wouldn't call it "strobey"..that would better describe the daylight 25p stuff. But the night shots have an almost a blurred sense of motion that matches the deinterlacing effect you often see when converting from video to film. I've seen this on my xl1s when using 1/30 shutter as well.

Barry
 
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I had no problems with the motion rendering of the night XL2 footage - it was the same exact look I'm used to when watching footage that was shot on film...
 
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So far the images I've seen are nice, BUT it's not enough for me to want to spend more money yet. Plus I know that while the images shown in the comparrison clearly show that the XL2 does better under certain lighting conditions that makes little difference to me unless I was recording weddings and needed to deal strictly with available light. The XL2 is nice and I wouldn't refuse one if it were given to me, but I'll stick with the dvx100 for now.
 
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I have a DVX and am not buying an XL2 - it would have to be considerably better than the DVX to warrant the expense. Right now it seems damn good - but not ridiculously superior to the DVX. Stick on the anamorphic adaptor, and I'd just as soon use a DVX for independent films.
 
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